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The interesting thing about the cars of the drivers, is they have practically free gas but there are hardly any cars on the road built after 1980.
Caracas is very bad, most dangerous city in the world. You're basically going to be kidnapped there at any age, or anytime and might not come back. Something like 50% of population there have been kidnapped.
I remember the first time I went there for business, I arrived on a Sunday afternoon and had the evening free. Looked up some type of bar/casino about a mile from hotel and decided to walk. Things seemed a little bit sketchy maybe after a 10 blocks so I decided to turn around. The next day an armored truck came to escort me to work with a chase car full of guns, and was told by driver "don't go down this street, its the most dangerous city in all of Caracus"
I feel very lucky to have been able to spend time there in 2000, 2001 and 2002. I called that the beginning of the end for the country as Chaves had just come to power in 99, I believe.
For a sportfishing mate, it was the best there is. Absolutely the best marlin fishing in the world and cheap. Diesel for the American boats was about .28/gal. I actually put fuel in the boat I was working on in 02' when the boss pulled the plug as his CC was declined and we were loaded up and ready to cross over to the DR. I was the mate and 1000 or so gallons was about 250 bucks.
I feel bad for the locals. The majority were good and us Gringos came to know local mates and captains pretty good. Most of them got out of there soon after and came to the States or went to Costa Rica. And they are scared to go back. I know several who were held up and that was the ticking point for them getting out of there. Quite common for the busses to get robbed!
A few years later I realized Venezuela had rubbed off on me when a couple of us were leaving a "club" in the sketchy part of Colon, PA. A covered Hilux pickup pulled up and said they would give us a ride to the marina as taxis were scarce at that hour. Yep, we just hopped in back and started talking to a couple military guys with their AR's or AK's or whatever. When at the edge of town, they saw and stopped a taxi and told us that they couldn't continue because there was a taxi available. All was good.
Looking back, perhaps not the smartest thing I've ever done!
The point of these threads is like many here and honestly, I will likely stop coming here due to it because its boring and clutters up the forum. It's a game of posting something out of context or in a skewed way and filling the first page with the same people posting insane bigoted stuff as fast as they can.
This is a forum but at this point, it's now no better than the arguments people have on Twitter. No insight, no discussion, just a bunch of people screaming like much of social media. It really feels like are no places anymore that haev not turned into that type of place.
There are many times where I've considered leaving this forum. I took a 7 week hiatus from the website once. It's not boredom for me. It's the feeling that there is so much petulance. I'm still here though.
I mentioned several statistics regarding Brazil's cities, states, and murder rates. I also notice the OP hasn't been back to this thread. The OP would have to admit to being misleading and being wrong.
There are many times where I've considered leaving this forum. I took a 7 week hiatus from the website once. It's not boredom for me. It's the feeling that there is so much petulance. I'm still here though.
I mentioned several statistics regarding Brazil's cities, states, and murder rates. I also notice the OP hasn't been back to this thread. The OP would have to admit to being misleading and being wrong.
There is ZERO, I repeat ZERO use to this specific forum if you do not have at least a dozen morons on ignore to cut the clutter of idiocy and racism.
Heck, if you really want to take the way back machine we once had a poster here that was a racist, nazi that complained about the age of consent laws (aka pedo) being unfair.
There are gems here to learn from, if you don't filter the nutjobs it can be a tough place to take those in.
P.S. I'd argue it should be closer to 2 dozen but imo it seems they can change user names and the ignore filter doesn't adjust to take that into consideration.
Cool your jets. I've been a gun owner for more than 60 years, and worked as a gunsmith for four.
If you want to discuss me rather than the topic, please start a new thread.
Discuss the topic?
We pointed out that you'd been tricked by the OP and instead of discussing you just dumped the thread and in the spirit of Oh Brother Where Are Though? (great movie) "He done runnoft."
There is ZERO, I repeat ZERO use to this specific forum if you do not have at least a dozen morons on ignore to cut the clutter of idiocy and racism.
Heck, if you really want to take the way back machine we once had a poster here that was a racist, nazi that complained about the age of consent laws (aka pedo) being unfair.
There are gems here to learn from, if you don't filter the nutjobs it can be a tough place to take those in.
P.S. I'd argue it should be closer to 2 dozen but imo it seems they can change user names and the ignore filter doesn't adjust to take that into consideration.
I've got 82 people on my "Ignore" list.
Some crazies have come here. One person said that he would kill his daughter if she married outside of her race. One person is trying to argue that letting women vote was a mistake.
The disarmament concept was officially introduced in Brazil in 1997, when the first effectively restrictive of gun-bearing law was enacted (bill # 9,437/97), through which the National System of Weapons-SINARM, intended for strict control of legal weapons circulation, was also created. A few years later, at the end of 2003, the law became even more restrictive, with the “Disarmament Statute”, which had as its major goal precisely to reduce the amount of murders in the country. It was, actually, putting into practice of a disarmament ideology drawn up by the UN long before, although without any proven positive example.
Obviously, it was to no avail. The murders, as seen, have not been reduced, but, on the contrary, they’ve reached their highest number, and what was said to be a magic solution became an unquestioned and grandiose failure. Establishing the prohibition of the possession, as well as carry-on, as a general rule, the Disarmament Statute began to take effect in 2004, the year in which 48,374 homicides were recorded in Brazil . Four years later, with the near extinction of the legal arms trade practice, the numbers came to 50,113 (2008) and since then, there have been on a upward climb until the record of 56,337, registered in 2012.
Unfortunately though, with more individuals legally owning firearms, the suicide rate, and injuries/deaths due to negligence I'm sure will go up. That can be changed by addressing mental health, and safety campaigns. We used to have them growing up in school. I remember the police visiting in elementary school talking about firearms and what to do if we encountered them.
I grew up with firearms and ammo within arms reach from elementary school on up. Never once had an issue, and never once had a thought of shooting up a school.
Depends on where you live. In many Brazilian states the murder rates have dropped. However, in Bahia, Amapa, Amazonas, and Ceara, those states have seen their murder rates INCREASE in the time that Bolsonaro has been in office.
Having a gun to defend one's self, I get that. I have a gun. It has certainly helped in São Paulo and Brasilia. Belem, Salvador, Fortaleza, those cities remain as violent (or worse) as before Bolsonaro. The murder rates in Brazil, but some places, particularly in northern Brazil, have remain violent or gotten worse.
This is why I believe on looking at every city, every state, on a case by case basis. What's up with Salvador and Fortaleza? Why do those cities remain violent while São Paulo and Brasilia are comparatively sager?
In the spirit of this thread I'd like to point out that Naperville, IL has a murder rate of 0.2 per 100,000.
This makes it safer than most major cities in Europe.
As such, the US gun ownership and laws should be the model for all of Europe.
#samelogic
One thing I have learned about logic. Logic is kryptonite for any individual who has an agenda to push.
And for the OP, the agenda was about "we need a far-right winger/borderline fascist to run things".
I find it interesting that the OP brought up Birmingham, AL. I live in Huntsville, some 100 miles north of Birmingham. Same state, same gun laws (it took me about 30 minutes to buy a gun, from a sporting goods store). Huntsville had 25 murders in 2021.
-Birmingham (population 197,575) had 132 murders in 2021.
-Montgomery, the capital of Alabama, had 77 murders, for a population of 200,603.
-Mobile (population 187,041) had 51 murders in 2021.
I bring this up because Huntsville is now Alabama's largest city, with an estimated 227,529 people. 25 murders. While it's the second highest total in it's history, it's far lower than Montgomery, Birmingham, or Mobile. Huntsville is the only city GAINING population. Huntsville had 11 murders per 100,000. Compare this with 38 murders per 100,000 in Montgomery.
Even better, compare with Madison, WI and Milwaukee, WI. Same state, same gun laws, same political party running both cities. Madison (population 269,196) had 11 murders, which is less than what Huntsville had, with a bigger population. Madison had a murder rate of 4 per 100,000. Milwaukee (population 569,330) had 193 murders last year. Murder rate for Milwaukee: 34 per 100,000.
This is why I like looking at each place at the individual level.
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