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Northram describes the same process that would happen with any human being.
Someone dies. Resuscitate or not? Do they have a DNR? If yes, no resuscitation.
No DNR who holds the medical power of attorney. Some next of kin.
An example most people can understand. Your wife has a heart attack with no DNR. You the husband then become responsible to decide her treatment. In reality if you aren't there at that moment, they probably resuscitate her.
Once they resuscitate her, say she goes into a coma. Husband then decides put her on life support and keep her on it or not or let her die in peace.
Same with the child born in some sort of distress.
This is normal everyday medicine for everyone in the country. Why is anyone alarmed that a baby would be treated the same. Who should decide how much invasive treatment a baby should receive in the face of unlikely survival other than the parent(s) who love and want that child?
NBC Washington’s Julie Carey asked Northam whether he supported a bill proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran (D), which would allow abortions--up to the moment of birth.
In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be “kept comfortable” and then “resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired” – the implication being that the baby could be left to die if the family decided they did not want to keep their child.
By your acknowledgement above that you understand what Gosnell has done, you are scknowledging that there are women who WANT to kill perfectly healthy babies just because they can up until and after birth. Just a matter off finding someone who will do it.
In spite of other posters emphatic and continued and WRONGFUL denial that it has never, ever happened in the history of the world.
The fear mongering comes not from finding one person at one time...but by spreading the ideas it happens frequently -- it doesn't.
Legalizing abortion drastically reduced the number of oppprtunities for criminal doctors or individuals.
Sending abortions back to alleys will not stop abortions, will in fact provide more opportunity for criminal like behavior.
IRealistically, the overwhelming majority of doctors would not perform a late term abortion just because the woman wants one.
It isn't a common occurence.
Banning all people from driving because some people may drive recklessly isn't how we do things.
Northram describes the same process that would happen with any human being.
Someone dies. Resuscitate or not? Do they have a DNR? If yes, no resuscitation.
No DNR who holds the medical power of attorney. Some next of kin.
An example most people can understand. Your wife has a heart attack with no DNR. You the husband then become responsible to decide her treatment. In reality if you aren't there at that moment, they probably resuscitate her.
Once they resuscitate her, say she goes into a coma. Husband then decides put her on life support and keep her on it or not or let her die in peace.
Same with the child born in some sort of distress.
This is normal everyday medicine for everyone in the country. Why is anyone alarmed that a baby would be treated the same. Who should decide how much invasive treatment a baby should receive in the face of unlikely survival other than the parent(s) who love and want that child?
If a perfectly healthy baby survives abortion and needs medical care, is that baby 'allowed' to live?
Or do they let the baby die or worse kill the baby directly ... because abortion is more important than the baby's life?
Northram describes the same process that would happen with any human being.
Someone dies. Resuscitate or not? Do they have a DNR? If yes, no resuscitation.
No DNR who holds the medical power of attorney. Some next of kin.
An example most people can understand. Your wife has a heart attack with no DNR. You the husband then become responsible to decide her treatment. In reality if you aren't there at that moment, they probably resuscitate her.
Once they resuscitate her, say she goes into a coma. Husband then decides put her on life support and keep her on it or not or let her die in peace.
Same with the child born in some sort of distress.
This is normal everyday medicine for everyone in the country. Why is anyone alarmed that a baby would be treated the same. Who should decide how much invasive treatment a baby should receive in the face of unlikely survival other than the parent(s) who love and want that child?
It is common for completely healthy babies to be born not breathing. That is why they hold them upside down and spank them.
What a question !!!
Don't you remember what Hillary Clinton said in her debate with Trump in 2016 regarding to abortion at the very minute a criature is coming out ? She literally agreed ! and many Americans are willing to take her bullet yet in defense of that human massacre.
The fear mongering comes not from finding one person at one time...but by spreading the ideas it happens frequently -- it doesn't.
Legalizing abortion drastically reduced the number of oppprtunities for criminal doctors or individuals.
Sending abortions back to alleys will not stop abortions, will in fact provide more opportunity for criminal like behavior.
IRealistically, the overwhelming majority of doctors would not perform a late term abortion just because the woman wants one.
It isn't a common occurence.
Banning all people from driving because some people may drive recklessly isn't how we do things.
Your post is confusing.
You want to allow it because you think it doesn't happen enough to matter? Am I understanding your argument correctly?
Why not outlaw it? Why is making it illegal to kill perfectly healthy babies such a THREAT that it cannot be made illegal?
There are no back alley abortions. If that isn't fear porn, I don't know what is. Women weren't lying in gutters by the millions bleeding out from illegal abortions.
In fact I have NEVER seen any pictures of that. You'd think with 5 decades of abortion debate these would be circulating EVERYWHERE.
The fear mongering comes not from finding one person at one time...but by spreading the ideas it happens frequently -- it doesn't.
Legalizing abortion drastically reduced the number of oppprtunities for criminal doctors or individuals.
Sending abortions back to alleys will not stop abortions, will in fact provide more opportunity for criminal like behavior.
IRealistically, the overwhelming majority of doctors would not perform a late term abortion just because the woman wants one.
It isn't a common occurence.
Banning all people from driving because some people may drive recklessly isn't how we do things.
yea but this is a non starter, abortion is NEVER going to be outlawed, regardless who is on the ballot or gets in. Oh but some counties in oklahoma blah blah blah. so?
access to abortion will never be criminal. its at best a local issue, like, well a crap ton of other ones.
the dems control every branch of govt needed to codify it TOMORROW. The USSC even said if they would codify it they would be grateful so they never have to have the convo again.
Pelosi and Schumer wont even bring a bill to the floor.
You're all engaging in selective reading. Can't say I'm surprised.
Here's what Northam actually said (from the link provided above). Note the emphasis on (graf 1) and reference to (graf 2) the viability of the fetus:
Quote:
“There are, you know, when we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians – more than one physician, by the way – and it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable.
“So, in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.
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