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Old 10-27-2022, 06:04 PM
 
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The more I think about this, the more supportive I am of these kinds of books being available to our teens. I mean, I grew up with an OB/GYN as a mother, and there wasn't much we hadn't discussed by the time I got to high school, but a lot of kids learn about sex in the back of the bus, and that's not a positive thing. I remember when my now adult daughter came to me asking about oral sex when she was in sixth grade after hearing about it on the bus. Her father and I gave her the facts, and while it was an uncomfortable conversation, it was better than having her believe that her middle school peers were a reliable source of information, but many kids don't have parents who will do that. Instead, their parents think if they avoid the subject, it will just go away.
Is it ok to you then if a neighbor gives these books to minor children.
How about the mailman or babysitter or your priest? You ok with that also?
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Old 10-27-2022, 06:18 PM
 
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Democrats and these nut jobs that wanna sexualize kids need to understand something. Those are your kids. You had them, you support them, you raised them, you pay for them, you love them, why does some whacked out of their mind liberal freak show get to come into your children’s life and teach them stuff that they are not in any capacity ready to know? How is that right? Just because they have different ideas about biology and what is , Does it mean did they get to teach your children what they think. It doesn’t work that way. And if they try to make it work that way, they’re gonna get a war. Literally.
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Old 10-27-2022, 06:21 PM
 
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Is it ok to you then if a neighbor gives these books to minor children.
How about the mailman or babysitter or your priest? You ok with that also?
I have young adult children, one in college and one recently graduated. I raised them in a home where we talked about sex and sexuality. I have read many of these books. Most did not strike me as inappropriate for a high school library. A few did, but I formed an opinion only after taking the time to review them. I work in a library. Lots of books aimed at teens have sexual content that parents are either completely unaware of or do not contest because the content is heterosexual. In my experience, anything LGBTQ sends parents off the deep end no matter how innocuous. If a parent is genuinely concerned about what a child is reading, then they need to step up and monitor that content for their own family. LGBTQ teens are also curious about romance and sex, and I believe that books addressing their lives should be available to them just as they are for straight teens.
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Old 10-27-2022, 08:12 PM
 
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We are about 2/3rd of that list, yes. Went to school in Florida so I guess people better stop moving here
Gay sex, anal sex, masturbation (really Masturbation, we are talking high school), and lesbian sex were going on in Florida high schools, and plenty of it. You better look up those teen pregnancy rates and STD rates in Florida in the 90s. I prefer not to pretend that I grew up in some whitewashed puritan society.
So there were books in your school library that showed how to have lesbian and gay sex?

You must remember the titles. Please let everyone know.
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Old 10-27-2022, 10:15 PM
 
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But that book wasn't an instruction manual. It was meant to be terrifying and disturbing fiction.
If it was published today it would be exemplified as subversive literature being planted by LBGQT+ pedos infiltrating schools and teaching children how to be incestuous, for indoctrination purposes, because beastiality.
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Old 10-28-2022, 01:17 AM
 
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I have young adult children, one in college and one recently graduated. I raised them in a home where we talked about sex and sexuality. I have read many of these books. Most did not strike me as inappropriate for a high school library. A few did, but I formed an opinion only after taking the time to review them. I work in a library. Lots of books aimed at teens have sexual content that parents are either completely unaware of or do not contest because the content is heterosexual. In my experience, anything LGBTQ sends parents off the deep end no matter how innocuous. If a parent is genuinely concerned about what a child is reading, then they need to step up and monitor that content for their own family. LGBTQ teens are also curious about romance and sex, and I believe that books addressing their lives should be available to them just as they are for straight teens.
Yes and that is exactly what parents are attempting to do by limiting access in the place where their children are required by law to attend.
The federal government has no business at all discussing sexuality beyond basic biology/psychology with children that don't belong to them. They have no right to provide access to any reading material beyond basic biology to any child that does not belong to them.
Neither does a neighbor, or a priest, or a babysitter and they would probably get in some trouble if they did as they should. We are not talking about a public library. We are talking about school libraries.

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Old 10-28-2022, 08:30 AM
 
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Yes and that is exactly what parents are attempting to do by limiting access in the place where their children are required by law to attend.
The federal government has no business at all discussing sexuality beyond basic biology/psychology with children that don't belong to them. They have no right to provide access to any reading material beyond basic biology to any child that does not belong to them.
Neither does a neighbor, or a priest, or a babysitter and they would probably get in some trouble if they did as they should. We are not talking about a public library. We are talking about school libraries.
Government schools get away with crimes that if committed by regular people would result in prison terms.

It is nice to see SOME people recognizing that.

Not sure why others still don't get it. My guess is they are terrified of being called homophobes or intolerant. There is no other explanation as to why they would support the distribution of pornographic materials and sex how-tos to minors.
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Old 10-30-2022, 10:41 AM
 
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Is this about sex ed. in the schools?

I know they also give out condoms at some schools as well.

Frankly, much like drugs, even if kids can't access it through the schools, THEY HAVE & CAN FIND PLENTY OF ACCESS VIA THE STREETS.
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Old 10-30-2022, 11:05 AM
 
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There’s nothing in these books that kids can’t find on the internet. So, while I’m not supportive of porn in the school library, I don’t find it something to get all worked up over.

When I was in school, 50 years ago, we had Penthouse and Hustler which, besides the pictures, had plenty of articles describing sex acts. It didn’t turn us all into Caligula.
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Old 10-30-2022, 11:57 AM
 
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There’s nothing in these books that kids can’t find on the internet. So, while I’m not supportive of porn in the school library, I don’t find it something to get all worked up over.

When I was in school, 50 years ago, we had Penthouse and Hustler which, besides the pictures, had plenty of articles describing sex acts. It didn’t turn us all into Caligula.
Could you get them at the school library?

Were they freely offered to you as a kid by your parents and teachers?

Distributed in public venues for minors to view?

Rape is common, right?

Shall the public school library stock their online materials with rape videos?

Since you know kids can see this everywhere on the internet, which by some illogical gap in logic means that it's appropriate for a public school library.

If it's on the internet = appropriate for school age kids. New liberal logic.
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