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You did not really answer Goodnight's question. What motives would the police and DAs office have to lie about this? Who do you think they worked with on the "lie"? Was Mr. Pelosi in on it and why woukd have agree since he had brain surgery? Or do you not believe the attack happened at all although it was apparently caught on body cams? Was the suspect who will now go to jail for a ling time in on it to? Why?
You say the "official" narrative makes no sense? The conspiracy theory aspect of it makes even less sense and no one can really explain why all the actors woukd involve themselves in it.
There ya go trying to use logic to argue with an all-in fully delusional right-winger. It's a lot like trying to reason with a Jehovah's Witness. I don't think you are ever going to win either argument. There will always be another even more ludicrous "explanation" to help prop up their latest fantasy.
Don't forget, many of the people spreading these conspiracy theories know they are lies and disinformation. They spread them because they get a sick joy out of destroying truth. They are going to ride that train of lies all the way to the station - when they install their authoritarian thug in the White House.
I think all the theories are great, the more derogatory and unsavory the better. If the Pelosi crime family has a problem with them they can always choose to be transparent and release all the footage they have. In the meantime they and their defenders will just have to accept our narratives as fact.
We'll let the bodycam footage, if it's not destroyed already, be the judge of that.
yes, we will. And very doubtful it has been destroyed in my view. If by chance it has, that is very shady and obviously changes the narative. but people are pushing various conspiracy theories way before the olice would even release body cam and security. chances are they are still going through and collective footage three days after the attack.
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A homeless man breaking into a $6 million house with a hammer and no alarms going off, just isn't very practical.
"Isn't very practical" does not equal out of the realm of possibility.
There ya go trying to use logic to argue with an all-in fully delusional right-winger. It's a lot like trying to reason with a Jehovah's Witness. I don't think you are ever going to win either argument. There will always be another even more ludicrous "explanation" to help prop up their latest fantasy.
Don't forget, many of the people spreading these conspiracy theories know they are lies and disinformation. They spread them because they get a sick joy out of destroying truth. They are going to ride that train of lies all the way to the station - when they install their authoritarian thug in the White House.
You are no doubt very right. But then there'd be no reason for those of us like me to post here at all. I have a lot of time on my hands and my hope would be that maybe one person on the fence, probably not someone who posts at all, might see it and at least consider how absurd these conspiracists are.
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Who said inside? Why can't they release the footage of the hammer attacker's arrival? His breaking in the door? There has to be footage and showing someone arriving at a home or breaking in the back door is not exactly giving away security secrets.
Relax and give them time. It's been three days since the attack. They are likely still collecting footage and going through it.
You did not really answer Goodnight's question. What motives would the police and DAs office have to lie about this? Who do you think they worked with on the "lie"? Was Mr. Pelosi in on it and why woukd have agree since he had brain surgery? Or do you not believe the attack happened at all although it was apparently caught on body cams? Was the suspect who will now go to jail for a ling time in on it to? Why?
You say the "official" narrative makes no sense? The conspiracy theory aspect of it makes even less sense and no one can really explain why all the actors woukd involve themselves in it.
Come on, political motivation of course.
It’s why you had the SFPD Chief up there talking about violence against political opponents instead of talking about facts.
Isn't it amazing how the media hasn't figured out the Jan 6 pipe bomber, the Supreme Court leaker, a single one of Epstein's clients, the motive of the Las Vegas shooter, but they knew Paul Pelosi's midnight visitor was MAGA even before both could put their underwear back on?
Who said inside? Why can't they release the footage of the hammer attacker's arrival? His breaking in the door? There has to be footage and showing someone arriving at a home or breaking in the back door is not exactly giving away security secrets.
How many law enforcement agencies are involved in this? The SF police, the FBI, whatever security is provided the speaker, probably the state of California has some kind of LEO, the local DA.
If they release any footage would it corrupt a jury pool when this goes to trial?
It's scary to watch a bunch of people who never took civics discuss what the law enforcement and the prosecution and defense lawyers should be doing.
You did not really answer Goodnight's question. What motives would the police and DAs office have to lie about this? Who do you think they worked with on the "lie"? Was Mr. Pelosi in on it and why woukd have agree since he had brain surgery? Or do you not believe the attack happened at all although it was apparently caught on body cams? Was the suspect who will now go to jail for a ling time in on it to? Why?
You say the "official" narrative makes no sense? The conspiracy theory aspect of it makes even less sense and no one can really explain why all the actors woukd involve themselves in it.
Police and DA lie all the time, especially to cover for a powerful politically connected person. This is why that first presser was so short. Guy knows he’s lying and wants in and out before being exposed.
When someone tells me a story it literally makes sense or it doesn’t. In this case it makes no sense. When it makes no sense I’ll gravitate to possible explanations that make sense.
My first post in this thread was it was probably part of the rising crime wave in San Francisco. I changed my tune immediately when the details began to emerge. Now I think most of what they told us is a lie.
You guys seem to be off in some make believe world where everyone is good and no one lies. Or maybe one rotten apple but if you hear 2 or more “officials” tell the same story it must be true. I don’t. I know our politicians and police officers lie more than they tell the truth.
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