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Old 10-31-2022, 12:04 PM
 
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There is little to no research on hormone use for "gender affirming" children and adolescents. Why is this "treatment" even legal without further study?

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmjebmspotligh...idence-review/

Conclusions

There are significant problems with how the evidence for Gender-affirming cross-sex hormone has been collected and analysed that prevents definitive conclusions to be drawn. Similar to puberty blockers, the evidence is limited by small sample sizes; retrospective methods, and loss of considerable numbers of patients in the follow-up period. The majority of studies also lack a control group (only two studies used controls). Interventions have heterogeneous treatment regimes complicating comparisons between studies. Also, adherence to the interventions is either not reported or inconsistent. Subjective outcomes, which are highly prevalent in the studies, are also prone to bias due to lack of blinding.

An Archive of Diseases in Childhood letter referred to GnRHa treatment as a momentous step in the dark. It set out three main concerns: 1) young people are left in a state of ‘developmental limbo’ without secondary sexual characteristics that might consolidate gender identity; 2) use is likely to threaten the maturation of the adolescent mind, and 3) puberty blockers are being used in the context of profound scientific ignorance.

The development of these interventions should, therefore, occur in the context of research, and treatments for under 18 gender dysphoric children and adolescents remain largely experimental. There are a large number of unanswered questions that include the age at start, reversibility; adverse events, long term effects on mental health, quality of life, bone mineral density, osteoporosis in later life and cognition. We wonder whether off label use is appropriate and justified for drugs such as spironolactone which can cause substantial harms and even death. We are also ignorant of the long-term safety profiles of the different GAH regimens. The current evidence base does not support informed decision making and safe practice in children.
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Old 10-31-2022, 12:32 PM
 
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2 1/2 minute video of detransitioner who talks about what years of estrogen does to a penis and sex drive.

Also talks about vaginoplasty. "drill a hole in your pelvis"

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...60475921047553
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Old 10-31-2022, 01:00 PM
 
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2 1/2 minute video of detransitioner who talks about what years of estrogen does to a penis and sex drive.

Also talks about vaginoplasty. "drill a hole in your pelvis"

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...60475921047553
What's mind blowing is even after all of that, the person's sex has not changed.
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Old 10-31-2022, 01:20 PM
 
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The end-game for this nuttiness is a mutilated individual who has not "transitioned", who has not
changed gender.

I bet there are thousands of people who are at that point, mutilated and devastated....and it is so painful, they do not want to admit it to themselves or anyone else.
Yes there certainly are.
And most ALL have gone uncounted by any data follow-up beyond surgery, which after puberty blockers commence, is a virtual certainty.

Anyone who is interested can discover scores of you tube videos and written narratives in de-transitioners own words of their disturbingly sad stories.

The progression of the trans-movement has been rapid, effective and virtually unopposed while it settled in and corrupted academia, gay marches, women's groups, and now the left wing of the Democrat Party.
And the broader world did not notice... until now, when it threatens our children and becomes a bizarre and evil way to 'trans the gay away' and re-assert the primacy of sex-role stereotypes to define women.

Check out the the de-transitioner sub-reddit which claims over 40,000 members.
How many 'de-homosexuals' are on the de-homo site?
What site?
How many lesbians and gay men claim to have been duped into a fraudulent 'identity' and risk vilification and hatred for opposing the activists that have led them into making a brutally awful mistake?
NONE, because there aren't any.

So the great awakening and push-back begins.
Feminists, homosexuals, parents, all ordinary people grounded in reality, are now in the early stages of heavy conflict.
I as a Terf clash frequently with transgender ideologues who are desperate to remain safely connected to the LGB political umbrella for it's own benefit.
Hopefully, those days are numbered.
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Old 10-31-2022, 01:20 PM
 
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this is disturbing.

GenderGP, for example, is a company registered in Singapore and owned by a Welsh doctor which will diagnose a 9-year-old with gender dysphoria over video and prescribe GnRHa on the same day.

from: The Dutch Protocol for Juvenile Transsexuals: Origins and Evidence
Published online: 19 Sep 2022
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Old 10-31-2022, 01:27 PM
 
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What's mind blowing is even after all of that, the person's sex has not changed.
Another detransitioner's comments:

"with clinicians basically just going on what they [the patient] tell you”.

I'm in tears.

This is what happened to me. I was so mentally unwell and I turned to these "professionals" for help and they blindly affirmed my delusions.

I'll never be the same.

You f@cking monsters.


Here's the twitter feed if anyone wants to learn.
https://twitter.com/ImWatson91
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Old 10-31-2022, 01:36 PM
 
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Another detransitioner interview. It's very slow, but worth the listen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMLOc7jA-eU

She can no longer sing or scream because of the hormones. They've severely changed her voice.

She also says her shoulders are much broader now. And they will never go back to being smaller.

Stop believing the myth that drug damage is "reversible." It. Is. Not. Reversible.
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Old 10-31-2022, 01:39 PM
 
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this is disturbing.

GenderGP, for example, is a company registered in Singapore and owned by a Welsh doctor which will diagnose a 9-year-old with gender dysphoria over video and prescribe GnRHa on the same day.

from: The Dutch Protocol for Juvenile Transsexuals: Origins and Evidence
Published online: 19 Sep 2022
This is the shet the current group of Democrat Progressives bring you!
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Old 10-31-2022, 01:39 PM
 
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https://fairforall.substack.com/p/nhs-gender-dysphoria

Last week, the UK’s National Health Service (NHS) delivered long-awaited suggestions for the kind of treatment children with gender dysphoria should receive. They’ve moved from a model in which children’s transgender identities are automatically affirmed to a cautious, multidisciplinary, evaluation-heavy approach to assisting kids navigating gender issues—a model similar to those of countries like Sweden and Finland.

The shift comes after pediatrician Hilary Cass released an Interim Report earlier this year on the UK’s only state-funded pediatric gender clinic, the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) for children and adolescents at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust in London. It had a waitlist 5,000 kids deep and a pile of whistleblowing complaints against it. The report noted multiple problems, from children’s complicated mental health issues being overlooked in the wake of gender issues—known as diagnostic overshadowing—to clinicians feeling pressured to affirm and send the child down a medical path, rather than investigate the source of gender dysphoria. The report specifically called out the "affirmative model” of gender healthcare “that originated in the USA.”
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Old 10-31-2022, 01:48 PM
 
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The report specifically called out the "affirmative model” of gender healthcare “that originated in the USA.”
the one currently championed by vegetable xoe biden...

and several c-d leftists.
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