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Old 11-02-2022, 02:48 PM
 
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Oh I know the story.

Ignoring that 10 out of 12 refused to stand by the final study is convenient.

Even before the journalist started investigating, the 10 out of the 12 took their name off the paper because they knew there was fraud -- not just misinformation but financial fraud.

Wakefield is the only one involved who has srefused to NOT retract.
There was NO fraud. I linked you to the Lancet's investigation.

The other 10 ONLY retracted their conclusions BECAUSE the data was SMALL. Not because there was fraud. Not because the observations were wrong. But because the sample size was too small. In reality, they retracted it because it was a career terminator, and they wanted to keep their jobs.

 
Old 11-02-2022, 02:58 PM
 
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one of the ways you can tell when a certain claim has merit is in how much effort is expended to refute it in the typical mainstream forums, like youtube. If you search there for “people broadcasting mac addresses” you’ll get a lot of ‘debunking’ videos, which indicate you’re on to something. Same thing with google searches that generate a full page of “fact checker” debunking hits.

So, you won’t find this video anywhere like that.

But it’s found here

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4qhljdhpa5gw/
omg.
 
Old 11-02-2022, 03:06 PM
 
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omg.
La Quinta Columna we’re the first group of researchers finding strange things in the vials of vaccines they were testing, but since then, dozens of other individuals have verified their findings with their own research.

That led to others, like David Martin and Karen Kingston to dig and find actual US patents on this technology that gives detailed explanations of what some of these things are, and what they do.

Self assembling technology that they have videoed moving and connecting together, which also react to microwave frequencies, which tie back to the big push to install these 5G towers while the rest of the country was basically shut down.

These 5G towers are not being put up to make your YouTube videos download faster, or make your cell phones faster.
 
Old 11-02-2022, 03:06 PM
 
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La Quinta Columna we’re the first group of researchers finding strange things in the vials of vaccines they were testing, but since then, dozens of other individuals have verified their findings with their own research.

That led to others, like David Martin and Karen Kingston to dig and find actual US patents on this technology that gives detailed explanations of what some of these things are, and what they do.

Self assembling technology that they have videoed moving and connecting together, which also react to microwave frequencies, which tie back to the big push to install these 5G towers while the rest of the country was basically shut down.

These 5G towers are not being put up to make your YouTube videos download faster, or make your cell phones faster.
omg II.
 
Old 11-02-2022, 03:25 PM
 
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Oh I know the story.

Ignoring that 10 out of 12 refused to stand by the final study is convenient.

Even before the journalist started investigating, the 10 out of the 12 took their name off the paper because they knew there was fraud -- not just misinformation but financial fraud.

Wakefield is the only one involved who has srefused to NOT retract.
There’s an old saying … it’s a mighty thin slice of ham that doesn’t have two sides.

You are simply believing one side of “the story”. The wrong side.

Of course, I don’t expect everyone to have the common sense to actually consider motives and gain when deciding which side of a story actually makes sense. Everyone should be able to, but a lot show they can’t.

So you have the FDA and CDC who have both been caught red handed, engaged in many frauds and coverups in the past. We also know there is a revolving door between Pharmaceutical Corporations and the Federal agencies who are supposed to regulate them, which is a blatantly obvious conflict of interests. But few understand that the FDA receives over 60% of its operating revenue not from taxpayer money, but from the Pharmaceutical Corporations they are supposed to be regulating. That isn’t just a conflict of interest, but is evidence of ownership. The Pharmaceutical industry OWNES THE FDA, because they are the ones signing the checks, and paying the bills. So, when you ask the FDA if there is a safety problem with a Pfizer product, you might just as well ask Pfizer. You’ll get the same answer. Guaranteed.

So, you have a few FDA employees and scientists who come forward and blow the whistle on misbehavior, and the FDA calls them liars, goes after them, and destroys their credibility in a massive smear campaign.

And people like you choose to believe the FDA.
 
Old 11-02-2022, 03:54 PM
 
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omg II.
Apparently, vaccines aren’t the only thing that needs to be analyzed with a microscope.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/aCUX2zE2qgmN/

Care to put one of these masks on?
 
Old 11-02-2022, 05:11 PM
 
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Yes, as I previously said, illegitimate stories get zero attention. Post a video claiming little green men from mars are putting alien creatures in vaccines, and nobody is going to even give it the time of day.

But bring a real issue into focus, and watch the debunkers zoom in ….

Kinda like you just did, now that I think about it.
 
Old 11-02-2022, 06:08 PM
 
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jYou left out some important information on the WAkefield case.

Wakefield and 11 other doctors, did a study on 12 kids that link the MMR vaccine and autism.

10 out of the 12 doctors retracted their findings just after the paper' was presented saying there was no link..
.
The problem arose because the study was done with the 'questionable conclusions...and then a paper submitted.

The paper presented informatioin that was incorrect and not reported in the original study.

They knowingly falsififed information. There is no question about that.

If this was meant to somehow give this other doctor some kind of integrity -- it fails massively.
It was not a clinical trial.

it was his honest observations of these children in light of their medical histories.

Of course the other doctors all recanted. They all knew if they did not, they would end up destroyed like Wakefield.

Nothing was falsified. They were no sponsored or paid in any way for writing the article. They were not paid as researchers. They were not 'sponsored' by a pharmaceutical company.

They didn't falsify anything. The paper went through peer review and was published. Do you understand what that meant at that time? Everything in it was examined closely before publishing. Everything.


As the other poster said, you have no idea what you are talking about. You are parroting talking points. Because that is what you are TOLD to BELIEVE. Like religion. Scientism.
 
Old 11-02-2022, 06:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GuyNTexas View Post
There’s an old saying … it’s a mighty thin slice of ham that doesn’t have two sides.

You are simply believing one side of “the story”. The wrong side.

Of course, I don’t expect everyone to have the common sense to actually consider motives and gain when deciding which side of a story actually makes sense. Everyone should be able to, but a lot show they can’t.

So you have the FDA and CDC who have both been caught red handed, engaged in many frauds and coverups in the past. We also know there is a revolving door between Pharmaceutical Corporations and the Federal agencies who are supposed to regulate them, which is a blatantly obvious conflict of interests. But few understand that the FDA receives over 60% of its operating revenue not from taxpayer money, but from the Pharmaceutical Corporations they are supposed to be regulating. That isn’t just a conflict of interest, but is evidence of ownership. The Pharmaceutical industry OWNES THE FDA, because they are the ones signing the checks, and paying the bills. So, when you ask the FDA if there is a safety problem with a Pfizer product, you might just as well ask Pfizer. You’ll get the same answer. Guaranteed.

So, you have a few FDA employees and scientists who come forward and blow the whistle on misbehavior, and the FDA calls them liars, goes after them, and destroys their credibility in a massive smear campaign.

And people like you choose to believe the FDA.
Exactly.

And no matter how many times this fact get repeated, people still pretend it's an honest organization with no industry ties. Like they have selective memories. And can't remember chit.

Pharma companies can also pay extra fees to 'fast track' their drug approvals. That sounds safe and unbiased, right? After paying extra fees, the drug hits the market even quicker.
 
Old 11-02-2022, 06:25 PM
 
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It was not a clinical trial.

it was his honest observations of these children in light of their medical histories.

Of course the other doctors all recanted. They all knew if they did not, they would end up destroyed like Wakefield.

Nothing was falsified. They were no sponsored or paid in any way for writing the article. They were not paid as researchers. They were not 'sponsored' by a pharmaceutical company.

They didn't falsify anything. The paper went through peer review and was published. Do you understand what that meant at that time? Everything in it was examined closely before publishing. Everything.


As the other poster said, you have no idea what you are talking about. You are parroting talking points. Because that is what you are TOLD to BELIEVE. Like religion. Scientism.
Wakefield rigged the data set. McCullough is a lair, Wakefield is a liar and fraud.


Thumb down to the 5th paragraph for fraud reference via data set rigging, logging and publishing falsified information etc.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3136032/



https://www.medpagetoday.com/pediatrics/vaccines/24293
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