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Old 11-01-2022, 04:00 AM
 
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010 View Post
I would test the water. That is what CDC and FDA do with every VAERS report.



Why would you assume that? Over 90% of reported adverse effects are reactogenic; sore arms, headache, muscle aches, fatigue.



https://www.medpagetoday.com/special...clusives/93936

"Baylor Scott & White Health sued former employee and cardiologist Peter McCullough, MD, last week, alleging that he illegitimately affiliated himself with its facilities when promoting controversial views about COVID-19.

Nearly 6 months after McCullough's employment had ended, he continued to use his former professional titles -- such as 'vice chief of internal medicine at Baylor University Medical Center' -- in media interviews in which he spread his opinions about the pandemic, the lawsuit alleged."
McCullough claims he never has. Instead when doing an interview, the interviewer was adding these titles by mistake after doing a google search. This is what I stated in the above.

And where is your source that 90% of VAERS reports are just sore arms/reactogenic lol? Headaches can be severe and debilitating, not comparable to a sore arm.

 
Old 11-01-2022, 05:13 AM
 
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He should correct the interviewer.

https://www.11alive.com/article/news...6-bb5a4ee6539f

"The CDC report showed that of the nearly 14 million people in the U.S. who were vaccinated during that period, fewer than 7,000 of them - about one in every 2,000 people vaccinated - experienced any side effects at all.

Most of the side effects - 90.8% of them - were minor, and expected. Those side effects included achiness and fatigue that went away in a day or two."
I don’t know why you give me a news link, instead of the underlying source from the CDC

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CDC conducted descriptive analyses of safety data from the first month of vaccination (December 14, 2020–January 13, 2021). During this period, 13,794,904 vaccine doses were administered, and VAERS received and processed† 6,994 reports of adverse events after vaccination, including 6,354 (90.8%) that were classified as nonserious and 640 (9.2%) as serious.§ The symptoms most frequently reported to VAERS were headache (22.4%), fatigue (16.5%), and dizziness (16.5%). A total of 113 deaths were reported to VAERS, including 78 (65%) among LTCF residents;
I don’t see sore arm mentioned.
Not serious does not mean it’s reactogenic.

And while headaches can be mild they can also be debilitating. I doubt mild headaches are being reported into VAERS though.
 
Old 11-01-2022, 05:33 AM
 
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Most people expect the injection site to be sore. Reporting every sore arm would bloat the system to no clinical significance.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

"Some people have no side effects. Many people have reported side effects, such as headache, fatigue, and soreness at the injection site, that are generally mild to moderate and go away within a few days."

https://www.uspharmacist.com/article...ild-shortlived

"The researchers found that 298.7 million doses of mRNA vaccines were administered in the U.S. during the study period, and VAERS processed 340,522 reports. Of those, 313,499 (92.1%) were nonserious; 22,527 (6.6%) were serious (nondeath); and 4,496 (1.3%) were deaths.

Data from v-safe participants revealed that more than half (about 71%) of the 7.9 million participants reported local or systemic reactions, more commonly after dose 2 than after dose 1. Of those reporting reactions after dose 1, about two-thirds (68.6%) reported a local reaction and 52.7% reported a systemic reaction. Other reported findings included injection-site pain occurred after dose 1 in 66.2% of participants and 68.6% after dose 2. An estimated one third of participants (33.9%) reported fatigue after dose 1 and 55.7% after dose 2. Headache was reported among 27% of participants after dose 1 and 46.2% after dose 2. Injection-site pain, fatigue, or headaches were typically reported in the first week after vaccination."
You claimed it, not me. That’s why I asked for a source, because it was stupid on its face.

Do you remember Suzy? It was only 30 minutes ago? Or maybe memory issues are another adverse event of the vaccines
 
Old 11-01-2022, 05:45 AM
 
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I repeat it because it is true. Causation cannot be inferred from VAERS reports, no matter how many there are.
The average person see's 4 bad reviews on Yelp and they pick a different restaurant. 1.4 million with 31,000 deaths on VAERS and the same people keep lining up EVEN BRINGING THEIR KIDS?
 
Old 11-01-2022, 05:48 AM
 
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The average person see's 4 bad reviews on Yelp and they pick a different restaurant. 1.4 million with 31,000 deaths on VAERS and the same people keep lining up EVEN BRINGING THEIR KIDS?
Forget even about the adverse events, the vaccines don’t even work lol

Usually we have a discussion if the harms (adverse events) are outweighed by the benefits. Here there are no benefits lol.

This product is like crap sold as if it’s gold
 
Old 11-01-2022, 05:54 AM
 
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He was a heretic going against the true doctrine.
 
Old 11-01-2022, 05:58 AM
 
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He was a heretic going against the true doctrine.
All too common in medicine.

Read about what happened to Semmelweis. They fired him and threw him into a looney bin then beat him to death all because he told doctors to wash their hands after they cut open cadavers and before touching pregnant women lol.
 
Old 11-01-2022, 06:46 AM
 
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Question the regime narrative and you're out

Doesnt say much for Board Certification
 
Old 11-01-2022, 07:11 AM
 
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You asked for the source of the 90%, and I provided it.

Most (90%) of VAERS reports are not serious conditions and symptoms resolve in a couple of days, most needing no treatment other than OTC analgesics.

From the Vaccine Safety Datalink:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2784017

"In the study by Klein et al, the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were safe for the population overall (ie, there was no difference for any of the serious outcomes assessed), but an excess risk of myocarditis/pericarditis was identified for vaccinees aged 12 to 39 years. Anaphylaxis after mRNA vaccination was rare."
Out of curiosity, if I invited you to a dinner party and told you that 90% of the people attending would be perfectly fine, 9% would get food poisoning, and 1% would die, would you attend?
 
Old 11-01-2022, 07:47 AM
 
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You asked for the source of the 90%, and I provided it.

Most (90%) of VAERS reports are not serious conditions and symptoms resolve in a couple of days, most needing no treatment other than OTC analgesics.

From the Vaccine Safety Datalink:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2784017

"In the study by Klein et al, the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were safe for the population overall (ie, there was no difference for any of the serious outcomes assessed), but an excess risk of myocarditis/pericarditis was identified for vaccinees aged 12 to 39 years. Anaphylaxis after mRNA vaccination was rare."
You claimed 90% were reactogenic/sore arms. The source you provided did not back that up.

So much dishonesty from Suzy, the vaccine saleswoman!
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