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Old 10-31-2022, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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It should be buried deep underground domestically, not out at sea, or transported via sea because it just falls off the boat.
You dont want to know what the cruise line industry is doing. Don't even go there.
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Old 10-31-2022, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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One upside of the great toilet paper shortage a couple years ago is a lot more people adopted bidets.
Then the water shortages came along, & bidet's were frowned upon by the Greenies.
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Old 10-31-2022, 03:50 PM
 
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Those paper bags are very bulky and much heavier. 10 bags likely takes up the same volume of space as 100 plastic bags. That all makes it more expensive and a less economical choice. You have to ship them... Paper obviously costs more. You have to store them... You will be utilizing your limited space less efficiently, costing you more, if you choose paper. Also, think of the trees



Here's from ABC news...


"Two thousand plastic bags weigh 30 pounds, 2,000 paper bags weigh 280 pounds"


https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=97476&page=1
Sweden recently cut down 14 million trees to set up a wind farm,
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Old 10-31-2022, 03:53 PM
 
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I live in a town of 8,000. Our recycling center runs 40 hours a week and can't keep up with just cardboard. They quit recycling plastic because no one would take it.
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Old 10-31-2022, 03:56 PM
 
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The answer is always regulations.

According to the report, here are the five reasons that plastic recycling has failed.

Mechanical and chemical recycling of plastic waste has largely failed and will always fail because plastic waste is: (1) extremely difficult to collect, (2) virtually impossible to sort for recycling, (3) environmentally harmful to reprocess, (4) often made of and contaminated by toxic materials, and (5) not economical to recycle.

Paper, cardboard, metal, and glass do not have these problems, which is why they are recycled at much higher rates.


Note #5... can't make any money on recycling plastic.

I actually said recycling items other than glass, paper, and metals were a waste of time over three years ago.
Well, good on you.

Now, how about applying yourself now to working toward increasing awareness that the plastics are being pushed upon us needlessly in many cases -- where materials that could be recycled were used in the past? Perhaps use your know how and intelligence toward advocating for packaging consumer goods as they were before plastics?
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Old 10-31-2022, 03:59 PM
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Every once in a blue moon we get the truth from these people.

New Greenpeace Report: Plastic Recycling Is A Dead-End Street—Year After Year, Plastic Recycling Declines Even as Plastic Waste Increases

Most plastic simply cannot be recycled, a new Greenpeace USA report concludes. Circular Claims Fall Flat Again, released today, finds that U.S. households generated an estimated 51 million tons of plastic waste in 2021, only 2.4 million tons of which was recycled.

The report also finds that no type of plastic packaging in the U.S. meets the definition of recyclable used by the Ellen MacArthur Foundation’s New Plastic Economy (EMF NPE) Initiative.

...
“Corporations like Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, Nestlé, and Unilever have worked with industry front groups to promote plastic recycling as the solution to plastic waste for decades. But the data is clear: practically speaking, most plastic is just not recyclable. The real solution is to switch to systems of reuse and refill.”


The answer is always regulations.

According to the report, here are the five reasons that plastic recycling has failed.

Mechanical and chemical recycling of plastic waste has largely failed and will always fail because plastic waste is: (1) extremely difficult to collect, (2) virtually impossible to sort for recycling, (3) environmentally harmful to reprocess, (4) often made of and contaminated by toxic materials, and (5) not economical to recycle.

Paper, cardboard, metal, and glass do not have these problems, which is why they are recycled at much higher rates.


Note #5... can't make any money on recycling plastic.

I actually said recycling items other than glass, paper, and metals were a waste of time over three years ago.
Our area quit recycling glass because it cost too much. The still recycle plastic and cardboard.
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Old 10-31-2022, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Eastern N.C.
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I'm 71 and remember newspaper drives when I was in elementary school. Boys VS girls, even grades VS odds etc. Tied bundles up with rwine.
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Old 10-31-2022, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Sweden recently cut down 14 million trees to set up a wind farm,
Really?
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Old 10-31-2022, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The only thing that should be recycled is aluminum cans. Everything else is a waste of money and resources.
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Old 10-31-2022, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Sweden recently cut down 14 million trees to set up a wind farm,

Hopefully they used the wood for something useful. Their forests are made up mostly of pine and birch, which grows fast. Not even worth shedding a tear over, especially since they have a huge amount of forests.


Trees should be thought of as a completely renewable resource, so long as more trees are planted in their place. Things like plastic are made from petrochemicals, which is considered non renewable according to modern day western science.
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