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Old 11-01-2022, 08:11 AM
 
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And why have that form if it amounts to nothing.
At the height of the pandemic, students who were not vaccinated agreed to be tested weekly, which I noted in my previous post. That is no longer required. All students could be tested for free at any time and still can.
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Old 11-01-2022, 08:22 AM
 
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At the height of the pandemic, students who were not vaccinated agreed to be tested weekly, which I noted in my previous post. That is no longer required. All students could be tested for free at any time and still can.
Ok, so they discontinued the vax or test policy. When they had that policy in place, it made sense to send out that questionnaire. Now why? Unless of course they plan to bring it back and want to know the student's vaccination history ahead of time.
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Old 11-01-2022, 08:27 AM
 
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Ok, so they discontinued the vax or test policy. When they had that policy in place, it made sense to send out that questionnaire. Now why? Unless of course they plan to bring it back and want to know the student's vaccination history ahead of time.
Colorado students must submit records for their vaccines from birth on. The schools want to know their students' MMR status, their tDap status, etc. Exemptions for vaccines, including Covid, are still permitted and have been for as long as I can remember.
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Old 11-01-2022, 08:38 AM
 
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At the height of the pandemic, students who were not vaccinated agreed to be tested weekly, which I noted in my previous post. That is no longer required. All students could be tested for free at any time and still can.
Oh yes getting tested "weekly". That was a real winner of an idea.

The only thing weekly testing did was make it an inconvenience and incentives for people to get vaccinated so they wouldn't need to go through that hassle. A person who got the vaccine could get and transmit COVID yet they didn't have to test. And weekly testing? A person could have gotten COVID, and been totally asymptomatic for days before they are tested.

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Colorado students have to submit records for their vaccines from birth on. The schools want to know their students' MMR status, their tDap status, etc. Exemptions for vaccines, including Covid, are still permitted and have been for as long as I can remember.
But if there is no longer any testing done for the unvaccinated, and anyone can get an exemption...why even have the mandate in the Fall of 2022? And on the broader scope. If exemptions are as easy to get as you say, why have any requirements? Couldn't they just say it was optional to submit the records? Why make the students go through all of these loops for something that apparently doesn't matter?
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Old 11-01-2022, 08:43 AM
 
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Oh yes getting tested "weekly". That was a real winner of an idea.

The only thing weekly testing did was make it an inconvenience and incentives for people to get vaccinated so they wouldn't need to go through that hassle. A person who got the vaccine could get and transmit COVID yet they didn't have to test. And weekly testing? A person could have gotten COVID, and been totally asymptomatic for days before they are tested.

I believe it was actually twice weekly testing for those with an exemption, and they also performed daily wastewater testing to detect outbreaks. If wastewater was positive, all students and staff in the building were tested for Covid regardless of vaccine status.

But if there is no longer any testing done for the unvaccinated, and anyone can get an exemption...why even have the mandate in the Fall of 2022? And on the broader scope. If exemptions are as easy to get as you say, why have any requirements? Couldn't they just say it was optional to submit the records? Why make the students go through all of these loops for something that apparently doesn't matter?

To notify vulnerable students in the event of an outbreak of Covid or measles or polio or whatever.
Answers above.
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Old 11-01-2022, 08:45 AM
 
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Sounds like obsessive hypochondria to me. Oh well, new normal.
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Old 11-01-2022, 08:57 AM
 
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Answers above.
To your "answers"
I believe it was actually twice weekly testing for those with an exemption, and they also performed daily wastewater testing to detect outbreaks. If wastewater was positive, all students and staff in the building were tested for Covid regardless of vaccine status.

The weekly testing is now twice a week and they were doing "wastewater" testing?

To notify vulnerable students in the event of an outbreak of Covid or measles or polio or whatever.

What's the difference between someone who just didn't submit an optional form and someone who asked for an exemption? The University knows who is enrolled and it is pretty easy to pull a report of everyone who didn't submit their records. They just have to figure that anyone who didn't submit proof is "vulnerable".

Sadly, I don't even think you realize how your story keeps changing to try and justify everything that was done.
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Old 11-01-2022, 08:58 AM
 
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Plandemic amnesty?

Oh. Hell. No.

Plandemic accountability?

Most definitely. It's time to expose and prosecute those who need to be exposed and prosecuted.
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Old 11-01-2022, 09:07 AM
 
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To your "answers"
I believe it was actually twice weekly testing for those with an exemption, and they also performed daily wastewater testing to detect outbreaks. If wastewater was positive, all students and staff in the building were tested for Covid regardless of vaccine status.

The weekly testing is now twice a week and they were doing "wastewater" testing?

To notify vulnerable students in the event of an outbreak of Covid or measles or polio or whatever.

What's the difference between someone who just didn't submit an optional form and someone who asked for an exemption? The University knows who is enrolled and it is pretty easy to pull a report of everyone who didn't submit their records. They just have to figure that anyone who didn't submit proof is "vulnerable".

Sadly, I don't even think you realize how your story keeps changing to try and justify everything that was done.
This started because you claimed that students were being kicked out of college for not being vaccinated. I submitted evidence that it is not true for all college students because vaccine exemptions are permitted at my kid's university and have been throughout the pandemic. Everything else is irrelevant. I added it because you asked for clarification. In summary,
[LIST][*]CSUFoCo allows exemptions for all vaccines, including Covid, and has throughout the pandemic[*]An exemption requires submission of a simple e-form and is accepted for both medical and philosophical objections[*]An exemption form is NOT optional; it is required[*] Exempted students were tested twice/week at the height of the pandemic[*] All students, staff, and visitors were required to mask when inside campus buildings[*] The school also performed wastewater testing[*] In the event of a positive wastewater test, all staff and students from that building were tested regardless of vaccine status[/LIST]

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Old 11-01-2022, 09:15 AM
 
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If the COVIDIANS want amnesty, that starts with an apology for what they did, along with an admission they were wrong. Haven’t heard either yet and don’t expect to.
I would also require them to take some classes to educate themselves and a pledge to stay out of it forever in the future. You are forgiven but are on lifetime probation and prohibited from positions of power.
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