Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Well the blue-haired-loonies already banned Cat in the Hat and Huckleberry Finn. Who knows what's next.
I remember some books that were required reading when I was in high school were controversial. I don't know that they were banned per se, but caused a bit of a stir. Nothing like nowadays, but the subject matter was nowhere near the craziness of today. This was in the 1960s, so books that some don't like is nothing new.
I really wonder how biology teachers cover reproduction.
Do they pretend that the developing human doesn't exist?
What do they tell students?
In the biology classes for biological majors.....we were taught that life begins at conception. Funny, how all those folks that "believe in the science" forget this one.
But we were also taught that the reason for "us" being here is that we have sex and reproduce. That is the science. Funny, how all the pro-life folks have a hard time with this aspect of biology.
My favorite was the genetics teacher that said one of the primary functions of Universities is to gather smart kids in one place so they can meet each other, have sex, and improve the genetic pool.
For that reason alone, we need standardized testing for University admission and getting rid of legacy admits.
In the biology classes for biological majors.....we were taught that life begins at conception. Funny, how all those folks that "believe in the science" forget this one.
But we were also taught that the reason for "us" being here is that we have sex and reproduce. That is the science. Funny, how all the pro-life folks have a hard time with this aspect of biology.
My favorite was the genetics teacher that said one of the primary functions of Universities is to gather smart kids in one place so they can meet each other, have sex, and improve the genetic pool.
For that reason alone, we need standardized testing for University admission and getting rid of legacy admits.
Pro life folks have zero issues with that statement.
In the biology classes for biological majors.....we were taught that life begins at conception. Funny, how all those folks that "believe in the science" forget this one.
But we were also taught that the reason for "us" being here is that we have sex and reproduce. That is the science. Funny, how all the pro-life folks have a hard time with this aspect of biology.
My favorite was the genetics teacher that said one of the primary functions of Universities is to gather smart kids in one place so they can meet each other, have sex, and improve the genetic pool.
For that reason alone, we need standardized testing for University admission and getting rid of legacy admits.
That's a hilarious was to describe assortive mating. I think I would have enjoyed your genetics course.
I'm not in favor of banning [any] books from public libraries. K-12 schools are a different story, and the reasons should be obvious to anybody with an IQ above room temperature.
Seriously. I got a look at some of the books that are in OUR school library which is now I am working on the local school board election.
You would think in a civilized society every adult would agree: Graphic sexualized material should never be in a public school library.
Yet there are factions of adults rabidly defending it and even demanding it be INCLUDED in public school libraries.
I wonder how they would feel if a 45 year old man starting reading aloud from such 'literature' to their daughters in a park or on a subway or in the diaper aisle at Target. There was a book a parents read aloud at a school board meeting that include the word p@ssy 79 times, including graphic discussions of sex acts involving p@ssy.
Would they still be OK with a stranger reading those passages aloud to their daughters?
Apparently if he was dressed like a woman they'd be fine with it.
So, banning books from schools and public libraries has been a big topic for the last year or so. Generally, it's focused on LGBTQ / "porno" (so it's claimed) and "CRT" (as defined by...?). However, I'm wondering if there's a whole raft of controversial topics that folks think would justify banning reading materials from school and public libraries. I'll toss out three theoretical examples for consideration:
A nonfiction book that praises the influence of Marxism and socialism in developing labor relations and laws in the early part of the 20th century.
A fiction book that tells the story of a child who rebels against his Christian parents and does not suffer negative consequences from that (despite transgressing against one of the Ten Commandments); rather, he finds happiness.
A nonfiction book that advocates for ending fossil fuel consumption because of the impending risk of climate change.
Personally, I don't see the justification to remove or even restrict access to these books in the theoretical scenario, though I can understand that some parents might want to discuss the books with their children if they read them. That said, many folks undoubtedly have strong feelings about these topics, so I'm wondering how you would feel if such books were freely available to minors.
Controversial books like what you posted seem fine and a great way to expose students to think critically.
But, I will qualify that by saying if they are 'that' controversial' they should be guided by the teacher.
Like assign the book to the class, have them read it, and pause letting the teacher explain it and why it is controversial.
Not just toss them heroin, lighters, and condoms and be like, I did my part.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LocalPlanner
A fiction book that tells the story of a child who rebels against his Christian parents and does not suffer negative consequences from that (despite transgressing against one of the Ten Commandments); rather, he finds happiness.
Back in my day we had a movie like that called 'Footloose' !
So, banning books from schools and public libraries has been a big topic for the last year or so. Generally, it's focused on LGBTQ / "porno" (so it's claimed) and "CRT" (as defined by...?). However, I'm wondering if there's a whole raft of controversial topics that folks think would justify banning reading materials from school and public libraries. I'll toss out three theoretical examples for consideration:
[LIST=1][*]A nonfiction book that praises the influence of Marxism and socialism in developing labor relations and laws in the early part of the 20th century.[/LIST]So I guess any research papers about Che Guevara are out then.
[LIST=1][*]A fiction book that tells the story of a child who rebels against his Christian parents and does not suffer negative consequences from that (despite transgressing against one of the Ten Commandments); rather, he finds happiness.[/LIST]Oh, so many possibilities there. Educated by Tara Westover comes to mind.
[LIST=1][*]A nonfiction book that advocates for ending fossil fuel consumption because of the impending risk of climate change.[/LIST]Ha, so no books either written by or about Al Gore either! As I recall, there were at least a couple dozen books about climate change in our high school library. I can't remember any of them being challenged.
Personally, I don't see the justification to remove or even restrict access to these books in the theoretical scenario, though I can understand that some parents might want to discuss the books with their children if they read them. That said, many folks undoubtedly have strong feelings about these topics, so I'm wondering how you would feel if such books were freely available to minors.
bo-ring attempt to make a point, without just being clear about the books you're describing.
Further, there aren't many "banned from the entire public library" going on, but when they do, it is because of a governing board doing it, not a parent.
Actually there have been incidents around the country (Google stories about Llano TX) of public libraries (run by a city or county) being pressured to ban books. Now, I don't know how sexually explicit those books were, if they were at all. I don't recall if most of these libraries had a separate library commission or if they ultimately reported to a city council or county commissioners court.
What additional clarity did you need? Also, I'm not sure what point I was trying to make, other than libraries can offer literature on topics parents find hugely controversial or offensive.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
