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Old 11-06-2022, 07:40 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Crazee Cat Lady View Post
Of course it was a lie. Bill Barr told Trump it was a lie and BS. Mitch McConnell even said it was a lie.


Judges all over America have said it was a lie, and that the Election deniers had no proof or real evidence.
Some of Trumps attorney's have been disbarred for trying to push this nonsense.


But Trump was so desperate to stay in power that he would say anything, do anything to try to stay in power...even if it meant dividing America and ripping it to shreds to serve his own means and ego.
If the Democrats 'rigged' the election then they were pretty stupid to not rig the rest of the races, they lost a lot of seats in the House, etc.
Mr. Trump is planning to run again in 2024. If so, history will repeat.

How will the reality deniers handle the 22nd Amendment?
Section 1

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
https://constitutioncenter.org/the-c...amendment-xxii
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Old 11-06-2022, 07:54 AM
 
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https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-...-a-lie-2022-11

GOP Rep. Dan Crenshaw of Texas said politicians and media personalities pushing election denial claims know it's all a lie.

"The whole thing was always a lie. And it was a lie meant to rile people up and, you know, I've talked about this ad nauseam — it really made me angry."

"So we have a lot of people in the political world that are just willing to say things they know aren't true," Crenshaw said in his podcast. "And it's a huge manipulation."
From that piece:
"The good news is none of these people will ever have any power to overturn elections," Crenshaw said in an episode discussing rank-choice voting with Nick Troiano of Unite America. "It was always a lie. It was always a lie. The whole thing was always a lie. And it was a lie meant to rile people up and, you know, I've talked about this ad nauseam — it really made me angry."

Crenshaw, a former Navy SEAL, went on to say there is "not even a process" for overturning the electoral college and challenging election results, as Trump-supporting Republicans intended to do to overturn the 2020 election.
The bad news is the SCOTUS is hearing Moore v. Harper in December, the outcome of which has the potential to create a process “for overturning the electoral college and challenging election results, as Trump-supporting Republicans intended to do to overturn the 2020 election”.
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Old 11-06-2022, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Half of this is bunk, but regarding states violating their elections law…even if they did, none of that mean the votes themselves weren’t cast in good faith by the individual assumed to have cast it. Registered, eligible voters.

What you’re saying is that by making it easier to vote, it helps Democrats win. So you’re basically saying that Republicans can’t win if it’s easy to vote.

If the states violated the law, that’s on the states, but no judge is going to invalidate that election if the votes cast were cast by eligible voters, who only did what their own states told them they could do.
In some of these states it was Republican legislatures that put in the rules that the election deniers are now complaining about.
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Old 11-06-2022, 08:49 AM
 
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He's patriot and a RINO. His patriotism clouds his assessment of 2020 not just because of Jan 6 but many are in denial that US elections have issues. They get upset that someone dare question them wether it be fraud, integrity, incompetence or poor policy.

This will be his first shot at potential opponents if primaried.
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Old 11-06-2022, 09:08 AM
 
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These election deniers are rich. When you make allegation you must back it up with proof. These deniers are rich on the former and severely lacking on the latter. If democrats were so great at cheating I would not be worried about them losing the house and the senate.
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Old 11-06-2022, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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So what you're saying with your list Leo is that you support voter suppression. This is America, not Russia, and every voice that wants to be heard should be heard.

Go understand the process on how votes are counted and how voter fraud is detected. There are protocols in place.
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Old 11-06-2022, 09:15 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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The dems should love the fact there are people that believe it. Without January 6 and the election denier issue they would be in much bigger trouble than they already are. It is the gift that keeps giving. It's Trump's ultimate legacy. Those two issues have the same affect on the GOP as a stroke did to Fetterman's brain.

It leaves a good part of the GOP stuttering morons wandering through the wilderness of bizarre conspiracy theories. Unable to appear normal or sane. Now there is a base for that but the GOP is never going to fire on all cylinders until Trump goes away and the crazy talk dies down. Even if you seriously believe it for the good of the part the issues need to be the focus. The GOP is getting momentum stop giving the dems a platform to attack.
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Old 11-06-2022, 09:22 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Eye patch McCain sold his soul to neocon warpigs months ago

Anything he says has to be taken with the same garbage disposal treatment as Liz Cheney and George Bush
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Old 11-06-2022, 09:25 AM
 
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Guess what? Bill Barr isn't the AG anymore. He didn't investigate anything when he said there was no fraud. Then he resigned.
Exactly what was he supposed to investigate when 60 court cases and the SCOTUS laughed Trump's allegations of voter fraud out of court?

I don't like Barr. His book was interesting though, but I don't like the lies about the Mueller report and his tainting of the DOJ. He would have been on it like white on rice if there was any evidence of voter fraud.

I know you don't want to believe Trump's appointee Chris Krebs when he said this was the most secure election ever. I know you don't want to believe our courts when they said there is no proof. I know yu don't want to believe that Pence could not over turn the election. I know you don't want to believe that Trump's B team lawyers are being sued for defamation by Dominion and will most likely lose. I know you don't want to believe Sidney Powell's words in court that no reasonable person would believe what she said about the election being stolen and that it was just an opinion. So what is she saying about people who were duped into believing that the election was stolen and gave millions away to Trump's lie? Is she telling you that you're dumb or what?
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Old 11-06-2022, 09:45 AM
 
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He's patriot and a RINO.
Your statement above lends credence to the new definition of a Republican: Anyone who bows down to Donald Trump is a Republican. Anyone who calls themself a Republican but dares to challenge or disagree with Trump is a RINO. They should change the name from GOP to GTP.
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