Woman Sues After 'Rubber Stamped' Double Mastectomy (ethical, drugs, conspiracy)

[moneill]

Originally Posted by newtovenice

Camille is suing four defendants in her lawsuit: a licensed clinical social worker and a licensed professional counselor, each of whom claimed to “evaluate” Camille and recommended her for double mastectomy surgery to “affirm” her “non-binary identity,” and the two health care clinics that employ these mental health professionals; both clinics claim to specialize in helping the “LGBTQ” community.

Camille’s legal claims include:

1) Professional malpractice – breach of the duty of care that mental health professionals owe to an individual client;

2) Intentional infliction of emotional distress; and

3) Fraud.

Camille alleges that the mental health professionals who claimed to evaluate and diagnose her ignored her history of trauma and her extensive medical and mental health issues, instead “affirming” her belief in having a “non-binary identity” and urging her to pursue “chest reconstruction” surgery as the path to self-actualization.

Yes all very much subjective decisions -- not a physical diagnosis that can be proven.

And she herself admits she has mental health issues.

She could have been convincing enough .

I suspect those Zoom videos are recorded.

She claims they ignored those things NOW...but how did she feel on that day?

We don't know.

This is highly subjective, not cut and dry at all. Could be they misjudged her mental health --- time will tell.

But to jump to the conclusion she's right and they are wrong is jumping to conclusions.

[newtovenice]

Originally Posted by moneill

Yes all very much subjective decisions -- not a physical diagnosis that can be proven.

And she herself admits she has mental health issues.

She could have been convincing enough .

I suspect those Zoom videos are recorded.

She claims they ignored those things NOW...but how did she feel on that day?

We don't know.

This is highly subjective, not cut and dry at all. Could be they misjudged her mental health --- time will tell.

But to jump to the conclusion she's right and they are wrong is jumping to conclusions.

What criteria are a social worker and a mental health counselor using to recommend a female patient for double mastectomy?

That's the issue.

[newtovenice]

The responses here have been quite interesting.

They literally boil down to mentally ill patients are 100% responsible for making their own medical decisions without any guidance from healthcare practitioners, and those same healthcare practitioners aren't responsible for a wrong mental health diagnosis.

Which ultimately means that trans 'affirming care' is cosmetic. Not medically necessary, since it cannot be tied to any specific correct diagnostic criteria for which healthcare professional COULD be held accountable.

[hawk55732]

Originally Posted by newtovenice

The responses here have been quite interesting.

They literally boil down to mentally ill patients are 100% responsible for making their own medical decisions without any guidance from healthcare practitioners, and those same healthcare practitioners aren't responsible for a wrong mental health diagnosis.

Which ultimately means that trans 'affirming care' is cosmetic. Not medically necessary, since it cannot be tied to any specific correct diagnostic criteria for which healthcare professional COULD be held accountable.

You obviously have not read the responses then if that is what you got from all of this.

[newtovenice]

Originally Posted by hawk55732

You obviously have not read the responses then if that is what you got from all of this.

You've stated quite clearly it's her own fault. That her healthcare providers have no responsibly in the fact that she got the surgery.

[moneill]

Originally Posted by newtovenice

The responses here have been quite interesting.

They literally boil down to mentally ill patients are 100% responsible for making their own medical decisions without any guidance from healthcare practitioners, and those same healthcare practitioners aren't responsible for a wrong mental health diagnosis.

Which ultimately means that trans 'affirming care' is cosmetic. Not medically necessary, since it cannot be tied to any specific correct diagnostic criteria for which healthcare professional COULD be held accountable.

Nope that's not what anybody said. That may be what you feel but not what was said.

We don't know the full facts.
We know what this patient claims.

Without knowing what the medical and mental health experts have to say, we are subjected to one side only.

So the general consensus is that it is difficult to jump to any conclusions.

[hawk55732]

Originally Posted by newtovenice

You've stated quite clearly it's her own fault. That her healthcare providers have no responsibly in the fact that she got the surgery.

If you had read my posts you would know that isnt my point of view. I have said that the Drs do indeed bear some responsibility. I stated that in the end it was her decision. I also stated that mental illness is not like misdiagnosing cancer or a rotten tooth, which is what you keep comparing it to. When it comes to mental illness the diagnoses can only go by what is provided to them from the patient. If everything that the patient provides to them points to one diagnoses that is what they are going to go with.

[TMSRetired]

Originally Posted by newtovenice

The responses here have been quite interesting.

They literally boil down to mentally ill patients are 100% responsible for making their own medical decisions without any guidance from healthcare practitioners, and those same healthcare practitioners aren't responsible for a wrong mental health diagnosis.

Which ultimately means that trans 'affirming care' is cosmetic. Not medically necessary, since it cannot be tied to any specific correct diagnostic criteria for which healthcare professional COULD be held accountable.

But she wanted to change even with her mental health issues.

She wasn't forced. People with mental health issues used to be FORCED to undergo shock therapy, lobotomies, etc. in hopes of making them better.

Today...sex surgery is socially and medically acceptable.

It's just that people find out that cutting off your bits does not change your brain.
It does NOT make you into what you think you want to be.
And that is where the regret is coming from and then the blame.

Chopping off her boobs did not make her a man. She's still a woman but now has no boobs.

How can someone want to be a man and still worry about breastfeeding ?????

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by newtovenice

I guess you didn't read the link?

She's suing the mental health counselor and the social worker along with the trans medical centers where they work. The surgeons have not been named.

She's targeting the ones who made the "diagnosis"

Often surgeons are covered under the policies of the medical center but it varies by state law etc.

Thus they may be accused of negligence in their capacity while employees of the sued party.

[sholomar]

They're calling it "chest reduction" still... what a bunch of mentally deranged loons. Your not reducing tissue mass from the chest or removing bones from the sternum, so it's not even accurate terminology. It's a "breast reduction" or "breast removal" you braindead loons.

Regardless, I maintain that the lawsuits that are going to come from doing transgender procedures in minors in the coming decades will dwarf any other lawsuits in the history of this country.

So if adults can sue over these procedures, imagine a 13 year old 10 years later... they'll be able to sue for millions each. It's going to be a huge cash cow that we are going to have to pay for and bail out. These minors are basically coerced by mentally unstable people into these procedures.