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View Poll Results: Why did the republicans red wave fail?
Trump republicans and their radical views 44 15.44%
Jan 6 failed coup attempt 2 0.70%
Election lies 24 8.42%
abortion rights 49 17.19%
all of the above 166 58.25%
Voters: 285. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-12-2022, 10:32 PM
 
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Guess there is a silver lining to the GOP being cheated out of the senate. Hopefully McConnell leaves the senate 1 way or the other by 2024. He is a pathetic WEAK politician.
You do know that McConnell was responsible for getting the last three conservative justices appointed.
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Old 11-12-2022, 10:34 PM
 
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Crime is down from last year, and inflation/gas prices weren't caused by Dems no matter how many times this is repeated. People blaiming political parties for this stuff are only revealing themselves to not know how such issues work. Inflation is literally happening everywhere, and most of the world is experiencing far worse conditions than the US is.

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Review the 1980 and 1984 elections. Both caused by the horrible conditions which existed under Carter. If Carter had left a solid economy, on top of those 2 elections, in 1988 a better DNC candidate emerges.

As Harry Truman said best "The Buck Stops here". Meaning the WH and the POTUS at the time.
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Old 11-12-2022, 10:35 PM
 
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You do know that McConnell was responsible for getting the last three conservative justices appointed.
Masterfully, I would add.
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Old 11-12-2022, 10:54 PM
 
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When you go race to race in the house it becomes apparent that Democrat gerrymandering worked extraordinarily well with the maps they drew for their shrinking states, with exception of NY. Nevada they split Vegas to dilute the suburban vote. Republicans are tied with Democrats in total vote count in the state but Dems pick up 3 out of 4. Overall in the house the projection is that Republicans will win the popular vote by 4 points yet they’re only going to have a 1-4 seat edge.

Again, domestic migration trends are killing Rs. Was not a good idea to have every hardcore Maga boomer move South to states that were already red. Many suburbs up north and out west are now non-competitive.

Republicans need a major new voting block. Hispanic families have been shifting their way. That’s their best shot. Rs need this demo voting for them 2/3rds of the time to be competitive nationally.
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Old 11-12-2022, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Actually, this election may assist the GOP in 2 years. JB & Harris will run, after 2 gridlock years, and we are at the start of a deep recession with massive inflation. Dems needed to lose both Senate & House (BIG BIG BIG) to get a new ticket in 2024.

Trump meanwhile reshaped the court for 25 years, and no retirements loom which will shift it. Nor will an "evenly divided" Congress agree to court pack.

DeSantis is the biggest winner of 2022, by far. He needs a Jimmy Carter II limping in, horrible national economic metrics, with a public yearning for a mainstream man like himself. A big state governor just like Reagan. Solid state metrics under his leadership just like Reagan.
Not so sure there be a big recession market just reversed last week on CPI numbers DOW jumped 1200. Putin is losing and if Ukraine war is winding down, and Biden is able to get prices under control he should easily be reelected.

DeSantis is far too extreme for moderate voters Republicans ran on an extreme platform this year look what happened to them. Fetterman win in PA is a window into the future that PA will not elect someone like DeSantis. Can't win without winning PA good luck in 2024 your going to need it.
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Old 11-12-2022, 11:44 PM
 
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Not so sure there be a big recession market just reversed last week on CPI numbers DOW jumped 1200. Putin is losing and if Ukraine war is winding down, and Biden is able to get prices under control he should easily be reelected.
Better odds at hitting Powerball.

PS: Trump won in 2016, and would have w/o Pa. The 2020 margins by JB in Michigan and Wisconsin were very small, in a pandemic driven economy. (NAFTA pushed thousands of Rust Belt voters Red by Trump wisely listening to those seeking big-time NAFTA reform. They are not pushing blue again, as your party blindly waves the NAFTA flag, no questions asked.)

Michigan makes Wisconsin and Pa with the rest of 2016 map intact superfluous.
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Old 11-12-2022, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Biden won’t be the candidate. He’s a mess now and may be dead or seriously hampered by 2024. If it’s not Newsom I’ll be pretty shocked
There is no indication Biden won’t run. There are politicians who have died in office before quitting. Elijah Cummings, John Lewis, John McCain, etc. McCain was married to a billionaire and still didn’t retire.
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Old 11-12-2022, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Crime is down from last year, and inflation/gas prices weren't caused by Dems no matter how many times this is repeated.
Yes they were.

2.5 years of insane lockdowns, plus supply chain disruptions, plus people spending continued stimulus checks, means inflation.

But america has voted, and they don’t care about inflation.

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Actually, this election may assist the GOP in 2 years. JB & Harris will run, after 2 gridlock years, and we are at the start of a deep recession with massive inflation. Dems needed to lose both Senate & House (BIG BIG BIG) to get a new ticket in 2024.

Trump meanwhile reshaped the court for 25 years, and no retirements loom which will shift it. Nor will an "evenly divided" Congress agree to court pack.

DeSantis is the biggest winner of 2022, by far. He needs a Jimmy Carter II limping in, horrible national economic metrics, with a public yearning for a mainstream man like himself. A big state governor just like Reagan. Solid state metrics under his leadership just like Reagan.
Fair enough, there is still some hope for 2024.
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Old 11-13-2022, 12:04 AM
 
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Yes they were.

2.5 years of insane lockdowns, plus supply chain disruptions, plus people spending continued stimulus checks, means inflation.

But america has voted, and they don’t care about inflation.



Fair enough, there is still some hope for 2024.
absolutely. The 2022 Senate map favored the Dems. 2024 does not, nor 2026.

The House of 1/2023 will be a coin flip in margin. A disaster to manage for both parties, unless you, like I, adore gridlock. It's like a 80-82 baseball team. Not good enough to compete, not bottomed out enough to sell fans on a rebuild.
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Old 11-13-2022, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Better odds at hitting Powerball.

PS: Trump won in 2016, and would have w/o Pa. The 2020 margins by JB in Michigan and Wisconsin were very small, in a pandemic driven economy. (NAFTA pushed thousands of Rust Belt voters Red by Trump wisely listening to those seeking big-time NAFTA reform. They are not pushing blue again, as your party blindly waves the NAFTA flag, no questions asked.)

Michigan makes Wisconsin and Pa with the rest of 2016 map intact superfluous.


PS: Trump lost in 2020 Michigan flipped their legislature blue first time in 38 years, Abortion sent many voters to democrat candidates, Election conspiracy didn't work as a platform to run on. Your living in the past good luck in 2024 you need it.
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