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View Poll Results: Why did the republicans red wave fail?
Trump republicans and their radical views 44 15.44%
Jan 6 failed coup attempt 2 0.70%
Election lies 24 8.42%
abortion rights 49 17.19%
all of the above 166 58.25%
Voters: 285. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-14-2022, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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NOPE!

You really think California with the final 4 seats will ever let 2 of them go to the Republicans for the win?

You are delusional if you think that.

Think about it for a minute. There is a reason why they have waited this long to report.

They always intended to go last for this very purpose.

Did you forget when Pelosi smirked and stated they have this in the bag?

Trust what she is telling you when it comes to this.

What an epic failure on the part of Republicans. They should be ashamed of themselves for letting all this take place.
California itself won't decide those remaining seats. Those who voted will determine the remaining seats. Just like it did in 2020 when the same thing happened and a bunch of California districts were called late, some went Dem, and some went GOP. If they all go Dem, if they all go GOP or somewhere in between it isn't a conspiracy....
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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NOPE!

You really think California with the final 4 seats will ever let 2 of them go to the Republicans for the win?

You are delusional if you think that.

Think about it for a minute. There is a reason why they have waited this long to report.

They always intended to go last for this very purpose.

Did you forget when Pelosi smirked and stated they have this in the bag?

Trust what she is telling you when it comes to this.

What an epic failure on the part of Republicans. They should be ashamed of themselves for letting all this take place.
I travel the state these CA Districts are pretty conservative....I never thought they were in play in the first place especially CA-3 that's High Sierra cowboy country.
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:33 PM
 
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Republicans should take the one in AZ and the one left in CO.

That will bring them to 216.

There will then be 5 left to call, all in California. One they just now flipped to blue from red, leaving 4 left currently red.

How exactly do you think those will turn out, even though they are red now?

3 of 4 left will suddenly flip blue when they finally decide to unveil the results they already have, handing the House right into the Democrat's lap.

It's over for the Pubs folks. There is a very good reason why California held off until this point.

You gotta know what you need before you can make it happen.

STICK A FORK IN REPUBLICAN'S CHANCES. IT'S OVER. IT'S BEEN OVER SINCE BEFORE ELECTION DAY.
All eyes on California. I’ve been the biggest skeptic here but even I think it will be a tall task for the Dems to pull this off. Several of these California seats (CA-45, CA-27, CA-3, CA-41) are suddenly turning more in the republicans favor, for the first time in these late vote counts. It will take a HUGE swing for Dems to get the house at this point but I remain very skeptical. I DO think California waited to count last for a reason, but with both AZ seats going Republican I don’t know if there’s much they can do at this point.
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:33 PM
 
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I travel the state these CA Districts are pretty conservative....I never thought they were in play in the first place especially CA-3 that's High Sierra cowboy country.
Many of the ones remaining are Democratic leaning districts. CA-3 is Republican leaning, but not as ruby red as you might think, it was only a Trump +2 district.
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:34 PM
 
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Most Americans despise trump/MAGA election deniers and the GOP position on abortion.
That is the gop base and the republicans aren’t changing
I am a republican and that is not how I feel at all. I am for abortion in the early trimesters before they are a baby and can feel anything for at will any reason or at any stage including up to birth if the woman's health needs it as long as baby cannot be saved. But no abortion for any reason without rape, incest or health of mother in later trimesters as that is just wrong as baby has feelings then.

Most Americans also do not want Marxist socialist policies, illegal aliens crossing our boarders and welcomed into our country, want the right to own a gun if they so choose, want the right to drive a gasoline car if they so choose, do not want this extreme anti fossil fuel agenda creating energy shortages, despise wokeism by shoved down our throats in schools and illegals being given more rights than us.

So we have most democrat politicians who are opposite of what most Americans want or do not want.

And we have republican politicians on one issues being abortion that most Americans disagree with. Well election deniers, but that is another matter imposed by Trump supporters because of Trump's narcist ego about it.

I think its more so the dems that go against what most Americans want than republicans on all except the abortion issue. Kick Trump to the curb and knock him out and stop the election denial non sense and republicans will win in a red wave upcoming elections. Get republicans and their party with there current values and adopt allowing abortion in early trimester or at anytime for rape, incest or health of female up until birth and GOP would beyond tsunami win elections given the liberals and socialists the dems have become.
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:35 PM
 
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I travel the state these CA Districts are pretty conservative....I never thought they were in play in the first place especially CA-3 that's High Sierra cowboy country.
Listen to Pelosi. Right before the election she stated they had it in the bag.

There is a reason she knew that.

There is a reason why ever single polling outfit had the House race called so incredibly wrong.

As I stated in another thread, Democrats are playing chess while Republicans are playing with themselves.

If Republicans want to win, they have to be willing to go into the gutter and do what Democrats are willing to do to win.

If not, just get used to the status quo.
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:38 PM
 
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Many of the ones remaining are Democratic leaning districts. CA-3 is Republican leaning, but not as ruby red as you might think, it was only a Trump +2 district.
CA-41 and CA-45 are also Republican leaning districts that haven’t been declared yet.
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:38 PM
 
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Listen to Pelosi. Right before the election she stated they had it in the bag.

There is a reason she knew that.

There is a reason why ever single polling outfit had the House race called so incredibly wrong.

As I stated in another thread, Democrats are playing chess while Republicans are playing with themselves.

If Republicans want to win, they have to be willing to go into the gutter and do what Democrats are willing to do to win.

If not, just get used to the status quo.
Okay
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:44 PM
 
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CA-41 and CA-45 are also Republican leaning districts that haven’t been declared yet.
Republicans held both CA-41 and CA-45, coming into the election but neither one of them are that Republican. In fact Trump lost CA-45 by 6.3,(though was 10 points under the old lines) he did win CA-41 by 1 point.

FWIW, I do think the GOP takes the House, I was just pointing out most of the remaining seats in California aren't exactly solid Republican seats. Two were won narrowly by Trump, the rest were won by Biden, some by double digits.
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:47 PM
 
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Republicans held both CA-41 and CA-45, coming into the election but neither one of them are that Republican. In fact Trump lost CA-45 by 6.3,(though was 10 points under the old lines) he did win CA-41 by 1 point.

FWIW, I do think the GOP takes the House, I was just pointing out most of the remaining seats in California aren't exactly solid Republican seats. Two were won narrowly by Trump, the rest were won by Biden, some by double digits.
Understood. Biden likely dragged them down here. You come with the data and facts I’ll give you that, DNC should reach out
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