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Old 11-13-2022, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I believe all mail in voting needs to be eliminated. All early voting needs to be eliminated. All voting must be done with proper ID on Election Day. Only paper ballots. There is the perception of too much fraud in all other forms of voting.

The George W. Bush presidency damaged the Republican brand big time. The Republicans lost a winnable election in 2012 too without massive perceptions of fraud. There was a belief from Nov 2008 - Nov 2016 that there would never be another Republican president again.

This is the first time in US history that a large percentage of the US population believes in rampant voting fraud. This didn't even happen in 1960, when there was what I have always believed to be a fraudulent election. Watergate makes no sense without the fraudulent election of 1960.
You sound like someone who still believes the government is honest.

Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.

I am joking. You are clearly wishing. You never said you were expecting.

 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:11 AM
 
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You have every right to believe that... but when did Democrats argue for more taxes for non rich americans? and LOL at government intrusion.
If you think corporate income tax hikes aren't going to get passed on to consumers, or democrats are going to stop the extortionate taxation at the "rich", I have some beachfront property in Colorado to sell you.

And I don't see republicans banning ICE cars. Or forcing people to have EV charging ports they'll never use. Or forcing homeowners to install solar panels that will never pay off. Or forcing landlords to house people for free because reasons.

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Old 11-13-2022, 08:11 AM
 
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The good news is the media and everyone can all move on from this in 72 hours when Trump announces his 2024 run lol
 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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You're fortunate. I've never known the United States you got to know and live in for the earlier part of your life. I am in my late 30s. I was a child during the 1990s. 9/11 happens as my adulthood is beginning. I had to conduct a job search as a degreed but inexperienced professional during the late 2000s recession. My adulthood has been nothing but terrorism, recessions, pandemics, and fraudulent elections.



It's so ironic right now that the white collar people getting laid off at those companies are 20s/30s degreed professionals who comprise the limousine liberal segment who voted for the far left policies that led to their own layoffs due to recessionary conditions.
Everyone with a degree is a liberal? Fraudulent elections? Let me guess. Trump is the only answer.
 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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The good news is the media and everyone can all move on from this in 72 hours when Trump announces his 2024 run lol
Or insults Desantis wife. Wait? Has he done that already?
 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:14 AM
 
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Everyone with a degree is a liberal? Fraudulent elections? Let me guess. Trump is the only answer.
No, sane policies are the answer regardless of who implements them.

The modern democrat are self-made victims, 50 year olds with purple hair, transgenders thinking it's okay to teach our children that you can be any gender you want on any given day, identifying as animals. Modern day democrats need a psych ward more than anything else from my perspective.
 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:16 AM
 
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Originally Posted by RJ312 View Post
I believe all mail in voting needs to be eliminated. All early voting needs to be eliminated. All voting must be done with proper ID on Election Day. Only paper ballots. There is the perception of too much fraud in all other forms of voting.

The George W. Bush presidency damaged the Republican brand big time. The Republicans lost a winnable election in 2012 too without massive perceptions of fraud. There was a belief from Nov 2008 - Nov 2016 that there would never be another Republican president again.

This is the first time in US history that a large percentage of the US population believes in rampant voting fraud. This didn't even happen in 1960, when there was what I have always believed to be a fraudulent election. Watergate makes no sense without the fraudulent election of 1960.
1960 was not a fraudulent election. Its possible Daily cheated in Chicago and gave Illinois to Kennedy but but Nixon would have needed Texas also, the other close race. Illinois did not tip the election to Kennedy.

Any way you slice it Kennedy won. That is the problem with conspiracies even the so called facts surrounding the conspiracy are wrong.
 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:21 AM
Status: "Let this year be over..." (set 22 days ago)
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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Originally Posted by RJ312 View Post
I believe all mail in voting needs to be eliminated. All early voting needs to be eliminated. All voting must be done with proper ID on Election Day. Only paper ballots. There is the perception of too much fraud in all other forms of voting.
And when paper ballots are the only form of approved voting people will be cry fraud over how the counts were conducted, who conducted them and how long they take to get results. Like so much of the GOP's view points we are going to turn voting back to the 1950's.

As already pointed out mail in voting started during the Civil War and some form of tabulating/mechanical voting machines have been in play throughout the 20th century. Early voting is fine, I went to my county office and voted early, the process and procedure was no different than if I had waited and gone to my regular polling place.

Until the Big Steal Rhetoric of a sore loser there hasn't been a voting method conflict since the Hanging Chad Debacle in Florida in 2000 which lead to the elimination of those punch cards. Of course some in the far rights circles went so far as looking for bamboo fibers during an illegal recount of Arizona's voting in 1 county only and over 1 race only, no conflict over the GOP wins, some people would benefit with professional help...
 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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You're fortunate. I've never known the United States you got to know and live in for the earlier part of your life. I am in my late 30s. I was a child during the 1990s. 9/11 happens as my adulthood is beginning. I had to conduct a job search as a degreed but inexperienced professional during the late 2000s recession. My adulthood has been nothing but terrorism, recessions, pandemics, and fraudulent elections.



It's so ironic right now that the white collar people getting laid off at those companies are 20s/30s degreed professionals who comprise the limousine liberal segment who voted for the far left policies that led to their own layoffs due to recessionary conditions.
Life was wonderful back then. We have lost freedom ever since the Civil War, but life was still free and good when I was young.

TV shows were wholesome and not filled with gutter humor or graphic violence. TV Dads were depicted as wise and goofy kids learned hard lessons not listening to them. It wasn't all graphic sex all the time.

Driving was considered a right, not a privilege. I don't remember when that lie took hold among people. If you told a man driving his 1957 pickup down a highway that he was just "exercising a privilege", he would have pulled his rifle from the in-cabin rack and told you to skedaddle.

Schools neither praised not taught Communist dogma.

Little boys and girls were little boys and girls and neither were confused about it. They never shared bathrooms.

Politicians fought, but it was over things like should we raise or lower taxes, not should we add $10 trillion to the national debt.

You missed out. It was a great time in America. It truly was. We were pretty free. We didn't even know it. You don't know what you've got until it is lost.

My parents generation really dropped the ball and allowed the socialist infiltration to become intrenched in the government, schools, unions, Hollywood, and the media. I can't blame them as who could know how dedicated and patient the socialist were back then, and what an effective plan they had for the takeover of America.

I am blaming only the left here but that is not true. GW Bush is the one who gave us Homeland Security, the Patriot Act that is now so often used against American citizens, and the TSA.

Both sides have enslaved us with oppression. Equal opportunity tyrants.

Be grateful you are not younger. Things are only getting worse, and you have enjoyed more freedom and privacy to date than the newly born today will ever get a whiff of.



Seriously.

Tragically.

 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:27 AM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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If you think corporate income tax hikes aren't going to get passed on to consumers, or democrats are going to stop the extortionate taxation at the "rich", I have some beachfront property in Colorado to sell you.
So your problem is with companies, not the actual tax code, got it.


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And I don't see republicans banning ICE cars. Or forcing people to have EV charging ports they'll never use. Or forcing homeowners to install solar panels that will never pay off. Or forcing landlords to house people for free because reasons.
No state has banned ICE cars(and if you know that term, then you know that as well). There is also no forced installation of solar panels or charging stations.
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