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Old 11-18-2022, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Everywhere.
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uhm....WE the USA have supplied Ukraine with antimissile defense systems (since 2014).... if they are using any "russian" systems, they are obsolete
Most everything Russia has militarily is “obsolete”.
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Old 11-18-2022, 10:11 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Most everything Russia has militarily is “obsolete”.
You are believing too much propaganda.

Which countries are in a race to dominate AI ?

Russia is not as "obsolete" as you have been led to believe.

And since 2018 both China and Russia are catching up quickly to the US.
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Old 11-18-2022, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Most everything Russia has militarily is “obsolete”.
but Ukraine "Air Defense" is 95% american military sales...

since 2014 (and before) we have been sending them air defense...

we were sending them the old "hawk" missiles (which I worked on back in the 80's when I was with 32nd ADCOM in Germany)...


and Russia is not obsolete as the press wants you to hear....but what Ukraine has left is not really Russia, but old USSR stuff...and that is only about 5%
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Old 11-18-2022, 10:29 AM
 
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It was fired to intercept Russian missiles heading to Lviv. Poland was not the target.

And Lviv is East of Poland. Where were they intercepting from?
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Old 11-18-2022, 05:20 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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You are believing too much propaganda.

Which countries are in a race to dominate AI ?

Russia is not as "obsolete" as you have been led to believe.

And since 2018 both China and Russia are catching up quickly to the US.
Whatever technology they might have, they are incapable of keeping their military supplied with even the most basic of items. It doesn't matter if they have some examples of some very modern weapons, etc., if they are incapable of producing and transporting them to make effective use of the technology. The nazis developed some impressive technology for the time but the wehrmacht was still using draft animals to transport stuff at the same time, for example.
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Old 11-18-2022, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Hey guys no problem it was just Zelensky who killed two of our citizens. He says it was because he wanted us to go to war and die for him with Russia. No biggy.
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Old 11-18-2022, 07:22 PM
 
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Well, Ukraine doesn’t have the capability to blow up those underwater pipelines. So that narrows it down to basically the US or UK. Those who would even contemplate the idea that Russia blew up their own pipelines are about as brain damaged as can be.

Who benefits from this? Germany doesn’t. Russia doesn’t. Europe as a whole, doesn’t. But the US does.

It’s pretty evident the US was responsible, and based on Biden’s remarks at the beginning of the year, telling reporters that if Russia invades, the pipelines will be shut down is really a confession before the fact.

I really don’t know how anyone can have a problem putting together this two piece puzzle.
Interesting. I didn't know Ukraine did not have the ability. In light of all we have sent them. But trust me, I'm open to any theory because our ptb are all up to no good and we are seeing its fruits.
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Old 11-18-2022, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Everywhere.
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You are believing too much propaganda.

Which countries are in a race to dominate AI ?

Russia is not as "obsolete" as you have been led to believe.

And since 2018 both China and Russia are catching up quickly to the US.
Not believing any propaganda. They still use junk Soviet-era tanks that were built in the 1980’s.
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Old 11-19-2022, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Whatever technology they might have, they are incapable of keeping their military supplied with even the most basic of items. It doesn't matter if they have some examples of some very modern weapons, etc., if they are incapable of producing and transporting them to make effective use of the technology. The nazis developed some impressive technology for the time but the wehrmacht was still using draft animals to transport stuff at the same time, for example.
Exactly. All of the money and tech in the world cannot immunize you from logistical/managerial failure.
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Old 11-19-2022, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Anchorage
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Hey guys no problem it was just Zelensky who killed two of our citizens. He says it was because he wanted us to go to war and die for him with Russia. No biggy.

They are trying to defend themselves. So two surface to air missiles went astray. They would have never been fired if Russia wasn't sending missiles all over Ukraine.



Apparently it is no biggy that Russia keeps attacking a country that was no threat to them.
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