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Old 11-15-2022, 03:56 PM
 
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I didn't make that rule. I think we shouldn't be in NATO. However that isn't the case and now Joe painted himself into a corner.
President Biden didn't paint himself in corner. What are you talking about?

You may think U.S. shouldn't be in NATO, but sadly, that's not the case.

Hard to see the upside to Russia bombing Poland and Kyiv.

Putin started this, and he end it at any time. Up to him.

But I bet good money if he get NATO involved, it's game over for his military. Russians just aren't that good.
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Old 11-15-2022, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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We're likely looking at Article 4, not Article 5, at this point. Which is basically like "we don't talk about Bruno, fam" with a few more guns shoved into the walls.
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:01 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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President Biden didn't paint himself in corner. What are you talking about?

You may think U.S. shouldn't be in NATO, but sadly, that's not the case.

Hard to see the upside to Russia bombing Poland and Kyiv.

Putin started this, and he end it at any time. Up to him.

But I bet good money if he get NATO involved, it's game over for his military. Russians just aren't that good.

Absurd assessment. Russia has its Dead Hand or Perimeter system, is the West really so stupid as to risk the whole planet over a blatant lie, which everyone knows is a lie?
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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All that has been found at the site of the "accident" are parts of a UKRAINIAN air defense missile, type S-300. So, do you realize how silly it is to write 'Russia is bombing Poland"?!

Russia is not bombing cities, it is bombing specific targets of military relevance, including power stations because the electricity produced is used to move troops by train.
Nato did the same in Serbia years ago:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...rade052599.htm

Russia is NOT bombing hospitals, that is something only Ukraine has been doing for months.
Yes, Russia invaded Ukraine, and they had good reasons to do so. Just because a country is invaded, does not mean it is poor and innocent, quite to the contrary. Nazi Germany was also invaded, by the Allies. So?
Russia had no reason to invade a peaceful country...a country that they had already taken land from illegally in Crimea...Russia is evil...always has been...they should be destroyed from the face of the earth...

They should have let Ukraine be.
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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We're likely looking at Article 4, not Article 5, at this point. Which is basically like "we don't talk about Bruno, fam" with a few more guns shoved into the walls.
Right. As I said, see my post #43
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:04 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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And this happens on Biden's watch under Democrat leadership.

Why did this happen? Because Putin invaded when Biden was Vice President and felt very comfortable doing it again when Biden became President.

Election have consequences, sometimes worldwide consequences.

What is odd is the party who kept screaming Trump was going to get us into WWIII is the party that has now ushered in WWIII.
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:06 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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This is a blatant attack on a NATO member. It can't go unanswered or Putin will just do more of it. Invoke Article 5. It's time for NATO to put an end to this special operation.
I remember 2016-2020 when Putin was afraid to invade a country.

I miss that. Elections have consequences and sometime those consequences can affect the entire world.

WWIII ushered in by Biden and the Democrat Party.
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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All that has been found at the site of the "accident" are parts of a UKRAINIAN air defense missile, type S-300.
Link to that statement?? Because as of right now things are still under investigation.
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:08 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Russia had no reason to invade a peaceful country...a country that they had already taken land from illegally in Crimea...Russia is evil...always has been...they should be destroyed from the face of the earth...

They should have let Ukraine be.

Totally unreasonable and ignorant statements.

Ukraine is anything but a peaceful country.

Russia has not taken anything from Ukraine, Crimea has given itself to Russia because it was the Crimean leadership that asked Russia to become a part of it in order to be safe from the Nazi scum that took over in Kiev in 2014. And they had every reason to do so in view of the murder of Russian speakers in Odessa and elsewhere.

Russia is a good country, which is exactly why they invaded.
You certainly don't know judging from your ignorant post, but it was the oh so "peaceful country" of Ukraine, which dramatically increased its attacks on the Donbass about one week before the invasion. Russia had warned the UN and other organizations about it, but nobody did anything about it. So, Russia had no choice but to intervene in order to stop that civil war.

By the way, you don't have to believe me, the Western OSCE organization confirms it with its daily reports:

https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-...kraine-started
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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And this happens on Biden's watch under Democrat leadership.

Why did this happen? Because Putin invaded when Biden was Vice President and felt very comfortable doing it again when Biden became President.

Election have consequences, sometimes worldwide consequences.

What is odd is the party who kept screaming Trump was going to get us into WWIII is the party that has now ushered in WWIII.
Real tired of hearing every world event being blamed solely on Democrats when they are in office (or anyone of any party, for the record). Such a US-centric, self-absorbed (at the country level) take. Biden is not the Earth-King. It may be a factor, but it is not "why this happened".
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