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Old 11-17-2022, 06:34 AM
 
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I have always been required to show 2 forms of ID or passport for every single job in 40 years here in SoCal.
It is easy to get fake IDs in Texas.

We had to laugh with my mom when her wallet was stolen by a pick pocket. Some agencies wanted her to jump through hoops to get replacements for TDL and social security, yada yada.

She told them she would just go on down to the local flea market and buy one, like all the illegals did.

That's why E Verify does not work. It checks papers, not people like maybe fingerprints would. That's why IMO, E verify is just a bandaid that does not work.

The state does require state contractors to use E verify.

 
Old 11-17-2022, 07:23 AM
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It is easy to get fake IDs in Texas.

We had to laugh with my mom when her wallet was stolen by a pick pocket. Some agencies wanted her to jump through hoops to get replacements for TDL and social security, yada yada.

She told them she would just go on down to the local flea market and buy one, like all the illegals did.

That's why E Verify does not work. It checks papers, not people like maybe fingerprints would. That's why IMO, E verify is just a bandaid that does not work.

The state does require state contractors to use E verify.
Verification could easily work.

You submit an SSN, name, and date of birth, and it kicks back as correct or incorrect.

Illegal immigrants may have a fake SSN card, but if you submitted that through the system, they won't have guessed the name and birthdate of the holder. So it will come back as not a match.
 
Old 11-17-2022, 07:34 AM
 
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He cut [legal immigration] by 40% from 2016 to 2020. Not enough, but a good start.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/prog...nent-residents
 
Old 11-17-2022, 07:38 AM
 
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It is easy to get fake IDs in Texas.

We had to laugh with my mom when her wallet was stolen by a pick pocket. Some agencies wanted her to jump through hoops to get replacements for TDL and social security, yada yada.

She told them she would just go on down to the local flea market and buy one, like all the illegals did.

That's why E Verify does not work. It checks papers, not people like maybe fingerprints would. That's why IMO, E verify is just a bandaid that does not work.

The state does require state contractors to use E verify.
https://cis.org/Huennekens/Study-Sho...-Effectiveness
 
Old 11-17-2022, 08:28 AM
 
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Nobody says it doesn't work for honest people.

Aren't you the one who keeps telling us that many are crooks?

Those crossing now are mostly legal and waiting for a court date. May take years.
 
Old 11-17-2022, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Verification could easily work.

You submit an SSN, name, and date of birth, and it kicks back as correct or incorrect.

Illegal immigrants may have a fake SSN card, but if you submitted that through the system, they won't have guessed the name and birthdate of the holder. So it will come back as not a match.
Well, it requires two things. Widespread usage and the then the federal government to then use that information when there's five people working jobs on the same name/SSN if they do match. As long as you have mostly pro illegals states like CA and TX, just as two examples of pro illegals states on different sides the aisle, you're not going to get the widespread usage. Employers that want to hire illegals are not going to voluntarily use. It's dead in the water at a federal level before even starting.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-...3A%22all%22%7D

There's often a bill but as in this case they never get out of committee. If you look at who sits on the committee it's not hard to see why. Two of the Republican members are from pro illegals TX. That's why from 2015 to 2020 when the committee was stacked and Republicans could have released it from committee they did not. Too many of the R names are likewise pro illegals. Really that's only begun to change more recently. Democrats used to be more the anti-illegal party as unions didn't like them while Republicans were pro illegals as good for business, good for the country.

Really the block of support is the deep south but since the big states, CA, TX, FL, and NY are pro illegals states it's obviously not going to anywhere at a federal level. But say you're Texas or Florida. The system is in place, has been in place since 96. It isn't perfect but requiring employers to submit through E-Verify would reduce the big draw of jobs yet they don't.
 
Old 11-17-2022, 08:57 AM
 
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Nobody says it doesn't work for honest people.

Aren't you the one who keeps telling us that many are crooks?

Those crossing now are mostly legal and waiting for a court date. May take years.
Where did I say that most employers are crooks?

Asylum seekers can legally request asylum and be allowed into our country but to say that their status is legal is a stretch, IMO. As I said before 80% of them are making bogus claims and as you mentioned being that their court dates can take years our asylum policies need to change so that's not the case anymore.
 
Old 11-17-2022, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Nobody says it doesn't work for honest people.

Aren't you the one who keeps telling us that many are crooks?

Those crossing now are mostly legal and waiting for a court date. May take years.
Note also Abbott hasn't done anything. He sent a Tweet two days ago but there's been no follow through. The rug of invoking the invasion clause was yanked out already. Possibly why Abbott has not done anything except Tweet.

https://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...le-42-next-day
 
Old 11-17-2022, 09:14 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Nobody says it doesn't work for honest people.

Aren't you the one who keeps telling us that many are crooks?

Those crossing now are mostly legal and waiting for a court date. May take years.
Most are using a loophole to make fraudulent asylum claims. There seems to be some kind of disconnect here. They should just have special asylum judges. All they need to know legallly is what constitutes asylum. As soon as you are apprehended your case is decided on the spot, it would take about five minutes each. If you lose the case, adios.
 
Old 11-17-2022, 09:32 AM
 
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Most are using a loophole to make fraudulent asylum claims. There seems to be some kind of disconnect here. They should just have special asylum judges. All they need to know legallly is what constitutes asylum. As soon as you are apprehended your case is decided on the spot, it would take about five minutes each. If you lose the case, adios.
Agreed. This nonsense of just allowing them into our country without verifying their claims first is ridiculous and we need a policy change. Another policy change should be once they enter illegally they can't claim asylum. It should be required at a legal point of entry. Who wrote these stupid laws?
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