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View Poll Results: Will Donald Trump announce tonight that:
He is running for President in 2024 as a Republican 66 75.00%
He is not running in 2024, and he will endorse Ron DeSantis 5 5.68%
He will form a 3rd part, and run for Pre3sident in 2024 under that 12 13.64%
None of the above 5 5.68%
Voters: 88. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-15-2022, 09:14 PM
 
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In 2016 I think a lot of people voted for trump because they didn't want Hilary as a president. Seems like people in the US show up to vote when it's agonist something they hate
This is how exactly why Trump won. Hillary was that disliked.
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:15 PM
 
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This is how exactly why Trump won. Hillary was that disliked.
That was part of it. For many he was the lesser of two evils but a lot of people were still in love with both of them.
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:18 PM
 
Location: The Garden State
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That wuss? Hah. He lost any respect I gained for him defending democracy on January 6th by doing his damn job and not listening to a bunch of anarchists threatening to hang him with his ABC News interview from yesterday. The guy would let the people decide that a guy who allowed anarchists to threatened his life and his family if he is "ineligible." Mike Pence is a spineless gutless worm. He is an enabler and enablers are just as guilty as the criminal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AAyKAoPFQs
Sounds contradictory
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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That wuss? Hah. He lost any respect I gained for him defending democracy on January 6th by doing his damn job and not listening to a bunch of anarchists threatening to hang him with his ABC News interview from yesterday. The guy would let the people decide that a guy who allowed anarchists to threatened his life and his family if he is "ineligible." Mike Pence is a spineless gutless worm. He is an enabler and enablers are just as guilty
I'll always respect Pence for what he did on Jan 6th.

I can't think what might have happened without him and others who defended Democracy that day.
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:23 PM
 
Location: The Garden State
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If it were not for his ridiculous religious leanings I would actually agree with you. I was very impressed with how he handled himself on Jan 6th. Never thought I would hear myself say that.
I agree that will hurt him. And that is a shame, he is one of the few trustworthy people out there.
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:26 PM
 
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Democrats couldn't be more pleased. If the Repubs put Trump up for election in 2024, he is going to lose. Independents and moderates do not like the election denialism and all the other baggage Trump will bring along with him in what will be his third bid for the presidency. Look at what happened to the so called "red wave" that Republicans were hoping for.
This^
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:27 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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I would actually consider voting for Pence. He has shown a great deal of courage and integrity.
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
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Ron DeSantis >
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:30 PM
 
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he should have just rolled over on his back and expose his belly.
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:31 PM
 
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Pence seems to be serious contemplating.

I would like to see Pence, DeSantis, Trump and not many others. If there is another field of 17.....Trump will win again. His base is loyal. It's not the majority of Repubicans but it is enough that if there is a huge field, he might pull off the primaries.
He lost a lot of independents
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