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View Poll Results: Have you ever been forced to give up your privacy for a man (men) claiming to be trans?
I'm a woman and nothing like this has ever happened to me 51 61.45%
I'm a woman and I think I may have had to share with a trans guy 0 0%
I'm a woman and I had to share with a regular guy claiming to be trans 7 8.43%
I'm a woman and I don't even pay attention to this kind of stuff 9 10.84%
I'm a man and I could tell you some amazing stories (share them if you want) 16 19.28%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-19-2022, 07:46 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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The classical liberals, which I much respect, are fewer and farther between these days.

The new crop have a notable segment that are fascist liberals that will enforce their views through trying to destroy you on-line, get you fired, prevent free speech and also violence.

One of their most insidious tactics is to label other peoples speech as "violence" in order to then justify not allowing it. (rationalized fascism)

They've tried to destroy Chapelle, Martina Navratilova and JK Rowling just to name a few.

Additionally, they seem to give a social justice score to things and don't fight for causes as much as giving out passes or condemnations along political lines.

For example, there are a number of trans women killed every year, are you aware whom is doing most of the killing?

Change the meaning of liberal if you want to. I'm not playing along.
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Old 11-19-2022, 07:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mathguy View Post
The classical liberals, which I much respect, are fewer and farther between these days.

The new crop have a notable segment that are fascist liberals that will enforce their views through trying to destroy you on-line, get you fired, prevent free speech and also violence.

One of their most insidious tactics is to label other peoples speech as "violence" in order to then justify not allowing it. (rationalized fascism)

They've tried to destroy Chapelle, Martina Navratilova and JK Rowling just to name a few.

Additionally, they seem to give a social justice score to things and don't fight for causes as much as giving out passes or condemnations along political lines.

For example, there are a number of trans women killed every year, are you aware whom is doing most of the killing?
100% agree with this post. Well said.
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Old 11-19-2022, 07:57 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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100% agree with this post. Well said.
I'd rather just disagree with other liberals than let someone tell me I'm a dirty word.
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Old 11-19-2022, 08:28 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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What exactly was done to these people? I know Chappelle took some crap but that falls under marketplace. Chappelle should be adept at unpopular opinion so I'm sure he's fine. Carlin got arrested and didn't whine. That's a liberal!

Class act
https://youtu.be/Ohnb2yaUggk

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Old 11-19-2022, 09:53 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mathguy View Post
The classical liberals, which I much respect, are fewer and farther between these days.

The new crop have a notable segment that are fascist liberals that will enforce their views through trying to destroy you on-line, get you fired, prevent free speech and also violence.

One of their most insidious tactics is to label other peoples speech as "violence" in order to then justify not allowing it. (rationalized fascism)

They've tried to destroy Chapelle, Martina Navratilova and JK Rowling just to name a few.

Additionally, they seem to give a social justice score to things and don't fight for causes as much as giving out passes or condemnations along political lines.

For example, there are a number of trans women killed every year, are you aware whom is doing most of the killing?
Great post, I agree. Though who is killing trans women?
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Old 11-19-2022, 10:11 AM
 
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Change the meaning of liberal if you want to. I'm not playing along.
I'm a classical social liberal, I value free speech, differing opinions and support others to find their own happiness in life....but not that the rights of one person should automatically supersede those of another.

I'm not the one calling themselves liberal and then trying to squash everyone that disagrees with me either through cancellation or outright violence.

I'm not changing the meaning of liberal, far from it...I'm calling out people that say they're something they are not. An ironic juxtapostion with this thread.

P.S. You have some strong opinions on this topic for someone that didn't even know who Lia Thomas was and as such you've clearly not informed yourself on the thoughts and opinions of the other swimmers both on and off her team. Maybe take in some other viewpoints on the topic.
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Old 11-19-2022, 10:16 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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I'm a classical social liberal, I value free speech, differing opinions and support others to find their own happiness in life....but not that the rights of one person should automatically supersede those of another.

I'm not the one calling themselves liberal and then trying to squash everyone that disagrees with me either through cancellation or outright violence.

I'm not changing the meaning of liberal, far from it...I'm calling out people that say they're something they are not. An ironic juxtapostion with this thread.

P.S. You have some strong opinions on this topic for someone that didn't even know who Lia Thomas was and as such you've clearly not informed yourself on the thoughts and opinions of the other swimmers both on and off her team. Maybe take in some other viewpoints on the topic.
What opinion of mine did you consider strong?
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Old 11-19-2022, 10:20 AM
 
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I'm a classical social liberal, I value free speech, differing opinions and support others to find their own happiness in life....but not that the rights of one person should automatically supersede those of another.

I'm not the one calling themselves liberal and then trying to squash everyone that disagrees with me either through cancellation or outright violence.

I'm not changing the meaning of liberal, far from it...I'm calling out people that say they're something they are not. An ironic juxtapostion with this thread.

P.S. You have some strong opinions on this topic for someone that didn't even know who Lia Thomas was and as such you've clearly not informed yourself on the thoughts and opinions of the other swimmers both on and off her team. Maybe take in some other viewpoints on the topic.
Just to address the P.S. as it’s been mentioned before not knowing the name Lia Thomas must mean you’re uninformed. It does not. One can forget a specific name of a person who caused a controversy, especially one that was a small ripple compared to other events in the news for longer periods. I’m sure I could post names of people who’ve hit the news that many wouldn’t know.
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Old 11-19-2022, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I didn't have a choice to vote in the poll since I'm a male but let me chime in here.

WHO is pushing this crap on us? Transgendered people are a tiny fraction of our society that has always been there and guess what they have quietly been using the bathrooms of their choosing and it has been odd but it has usually been under the radar.

Today we have people screaming and demanding that biological males that think they are females be allowed into bathrooms, locker rooms and into female sports at every level.

Who is championing for this fraction and demanding that the majority bow down to them?

Those responsible for this nonsense are members of the Left but what is odd is that these same people have been screaming about women's Rights for years.
Women deserve Equality. They also deserve to have some privacy in their bathrooms and locker rooms and showers.


We all know that when Laws are made there are loopholes that people will exploit. It is just plain wrong that a man can go into the ladies room and the women can be made to feel uncomfortable by this perverted lurker and there is nothing that can be done.



We are seeing an assault from the Left on our Kids and the Boys and Girls to accept this nonsense as normal. Why?
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Old 11-19-2022, 10:26 AM
 
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Great post, I agree. Though who is killing trans women?
Well it's disproportionately black men doing the attacking and black trans being killed. This is not surprising given that the FBI hate crime stats for attacks on gay men is also like 6-1 disproportionate when looking at racial groups.

But it's like the Asian hate crime task force in NYC that won't release attacker data. Nobody in the mainstream really wants to come out and say whom is doing most of the attacking, but they obliquely refer to it by saying things like "not wanting to inflame tensions between minority groups" or just pointing out the most common victims.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transge...safety-report/

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Notably, while only 13% of the transgender community is estimated to be Black, according to UCLA School of Law's Williams Institute, Black trans women accounted for nearly three-quarters of the known victims.
The trans community however is not putting bread around that BS and calling it a sandwich.

https://translash.org/confronting-bl...ave-our-lives/
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