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Old 11-17-2022, 02:16 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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One core difference is most people in rural areas have strong social networks that start in kindergarten and don't end until death. There are a lot of safety nets resulting from all those connects to help people in need before requesting help from the anonymous govt. Cities tend to have a lot of people who lack social networks and they desire that govt fill the void.

 
Old 11-17-2022, 02:25 PM
 
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City people are exposed to a wider variety of people and life situations overall. They tend to know people of a wide variety of ethnicities, home languages, religions, orientations. They hear stories from people who come from very diverse backgrounds. Those folks may have immigrated under difficult circumstances, they may be very rich or very poor, they might invite you to their place of worship that is very different from anything you've ever experienced before, they might cook you food that's completely foreign to you.

If you live in a comparatively isolated area where all of your contacts look like you and work like you and attend the same church, it's difficult to really identify with those who look/cook/speak/worship/live differently. It's harder to see things from someone else's point of view when everyone around you agrees with you. The stories of the people who all grew up within a 20-mile radius differ, for sure, but not to the extent they'd be if they came from 10 different countries.

The mindsets are just very different.
 
Old 11-17-2022, 02:26 PM
 
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One core difference is most people in rural areas have strong social networks that start in kindergarten and don't end until death. There are a lot of safety nets resulting from all those connects to help people in need before requesting help from the anonymous govt. Cities tend to have a lot of people who lack social networks and they desire that govt fill the void.
Can you provide a study that shows people in cities lack social networks? If rural folks have all the help they need from their social networks how come they use MORE social services than those in cities? Could it just maybe be based on income level/financial health and not social connections?
 
Old 11-17-2022, 02:29 PM
 
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If you're looking to get on the dole, where do you go: Large, affluent cities with a collectivist mentality capable of supporting you or less affluent rural areas where people respect a man who can support himself and oppose tax increases to support people who will not?
Plenty of poverty and people who cannot support themselves here in my deep red state and county. Many depend on the largesse of the government, organizations and individuals in order to just eat. And we're happy to help with that. It's easy to paint with a broad brush.
 
Old 11-17-2022, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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The Rural dwellers are more Free spirited types that prefer the wide open spaces of the country and nature. These traits fall more in line with the independent thinking and personal responsibility of the average Republican.


A city person hops on public transport
A country person hops in their own vehicle.

If something happens in the city they call someone.
If something happens in the country we take care of it ourselves if we can.


It is about Freedom and Elbow room and Independent thought Vs the Tribal think of the Democrats.
Who's "we" and when did the Cape become "country"? LMAO

And calm down with the "independent thinking" - the entire MAGA (or is it MAGAGA now) group got its election fraud talking points from a crackhead who makes pillows and a group of people who didn't know the difference between the Four Seasons hotel and a landscaping company.
 
Old 11-17-2022, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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The divide is due to government dependency.

Rural people are independent, self-sufficient, and value their freedom. They want freedom from government interfernce. They know government money always comes with strings attached. Rural people want to keep their own money and provide their own goods and services. Rural people want small government with little power.

City people want large, powerful government that provides lots of goods and services. City people trust government to make good decisions for them. City people delegate how their money is used to government. City people who get more back from government than they pay into government, become addicted to government benefits. They become dependent, and reward the Democratic party with votes so as to increase what they get from the government.

It is all about rural self-sufficiency vs. urban dependence.

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Old 11-17-2022, 02:38 PM
 
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The divide is due to dependency.

Rural people are independent and self-proficient. They live in low density and don't have many government services or government support. They tend to do for themselves. They don't want government to do much for them. They know that if taxes are low and government is small, they will have more money to provide for themselves and they can then choose what goods and services they want, rather than governments making that decision and wasting money not of their choosing.

All this makes them not vote Democrat.

City people vote and benefit from government servicesa and handouts. They eventually become dependent on increasing levels of government provided benefits. As time passes, city people vote for ever-increasing government and ever-increasing levels of handouts, entitlement, and support. City people lose their independence and become interdependent on government, and then dependent no government. Threats of losing free entitlements and benefits induce city people to continue voting Democrat.


It is all 100% about self-sufficiency vs dependence.
Some in rural areas are indeed dependent. I see it with my own eyes. They wouldn't be able to eat or pay their bills if not for programs and the charity of organizations that provide food, weekly meals, healthcare, etc. for them. It's easy to make assumptions if you don't live where they are.
 
Old 11-17-2022, 02:43 PM
 
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The divide is due to dependency.

Rural people are independent and self-proficient. They live in low density and don't have many government services or government support. They tend to do for themselves. They don't want government to do much for them. They know that if taxes are low and government is small, they will have more money to provide for themselves and they can then choose what goods and services they want, rather than governments making that decision and wasting money not of their choosing.

All this makes them not vote Democrat.

City people vote and benefit from government servicesa and handouts. They eventually become dependent on increasing levels of government provided benefits. As time passes, city people vote for ever-increasing government and ever-increasing levels of handouts, entitlement, and support. City people lose their independence and become interdependent on government, and then dependent no government. Threats of losing free entitlements and benefits induce city people to continue voting Democrat.


It is all 100% about self-sufficiency vs dependence.
Being the self sufficient and Independent Thinker I am, I have 2 choices as to what to think about this thread:

1. Agree with the pronouncements of those with political leanings and personal biases or 2: Agree with the Math and Statistics that prove rural areas are more dependent on government largesse than their urban counterparts.

1 claims to “know” things and 2 presents cold hard facts. Easy decision.
 
Old 11-17-2022, 03:12 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Trying to imply rural people lean republican because they rely more on gov services.well that explains nothing and leaves me not buying that as even close to the true reason.
 
Old 11-17-2022, 03:19 PM
 
Location: FL & NC
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Seems like a self fulling prophecy to me. People want to be among like minded people. Since cities lean left it drives more left leaning people to them and vice versa for rural areas. Also colleges are typically extremely left leaning and promote a lot of those ideas, that's why you often see some of the loudest people on the left are college students. Where are most large colleges located?
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