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Old 11-20-2022, 08:53 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Originally Posted by AADAD View Post
My goodness. Next to your fears we are surrounded by billions of years.

Enjoy the day.
Those aren't my fears....I was just repeating what our President told us.

As for myself, I do not believe that any person or Government can play "God" and change the planet/weather/climate.
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Old 11-20-2022, 08:54 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Then why not introduce a temporary windfall tax in order to subsidise energy costs and cap energy prices.

The Scandinavians, even use wood to power biomass power stations as well as waste products from it's forestry industry such as black liquor.

The US has vast forests itself and could easily do the same.

Finland: a global leader in forest-based biomass for energy - Bioenergy International

Bioenergy from Finnish forests: Sustainable, efficient, modern use of wood -IRENA

The US a country with vast natural energy resources and very wealthy energy companies that are currently enjoying vast profits due to the global market place in energy, should not have ordinary citizens sitting in homes that they are unable to heat properly.
Inflation is giving them profits.

And to do what you say goes against the global plan to "save the planet" by putting us all on wind/solar.
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Old 11-20-2022, 08:59 AM
 
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Speaking of giving away money. Texas petroleum producers flare enough gases to supply every house in Texas, year round. It is cheaper and easier to burn it up than to build pipelines and sell it.
ah you seem to miss the point that they are a business whose purpose is to make money. If they charged enough to pay for the cost to build the pipelines you would be here complaining about that cost. The Government's purpose is primarily to support it's people and that is we the people of the US NOT the people of another Nation or Nations. Worked for FPL for years in Florida and every time a storm would come people would yell at FPL for not burying all the lines land when told it would have to double rates for 20 years to pay for it just complained that no the company should do it anyway without raising rates. A business must make money a Government just takes it. Big difference.
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Old 11-20-2022, 09:01 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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If the US reduces carbon by 50%, what is the estimated change in global temperatyres? Will that amount "save the planet".
It's not the US. It's the entire world...via the Paris Climate Treaty that all countries signed.
50% reduction by 2030 and 100% reduction by 2050.

Trump removed the US from it but Biden put us back in when he got into office.
People who voted for Biden should have known this.


https://www.instituteforenergyresear...ate-agreement/

Former President Trump withdrew the United States officially from the Paris Climate Agreement on November 4, 2020, having claimed in 2017 it would cost the country $3 trillion in GDP and 6.5 million jobs. On his first day in office, President Biden signed an executive order to rejoin the agreement, in line with his campaign pledge to make the nation carbon-neutral by 2050 irrespective of cost.
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Old 11-20-2022, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I was being sarcastic. I was making a parody of the type of tone deaf statements politicians make. Anybody that owns a home must be well off. Just be thankful you aren't homeless sort of thing. Eat chef Boy ardee buy generic Raisin Bran, get a Tesla etc. it is your fault you are cold.
Sorry to take you literally...my bad. lets be thankful that those who voted for this, are now paying through the nose for it. I feel bad for the rest though.
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Old 11-20-2022, 09:07 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Sorry to take you literally...my bad. lets be thankful that those who voted for this, are now paying through the nose for it. I feel bad for the rest though.
I think many people just voted D without knowing what the campaign promises were.
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Old 11-20-2022, 09:09 AM
 
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So would you rather cope with that or 100 degrees? Almost all cold countries are more developed and hot places not so much. Live is easy if you aren't about to freeze to death. Oh and for people and frozen pipes. You should be able to drain your system.
I didn’t think I needed to because I didn’t think we’d have a whole week of such low temperatures. It was completely unprecedented in my lifetime. I also never lost power so I was lucky. I just forgot about the pipe next to my breezeway. Live and learn I guess.

I’ll take 100 degree days over that kind of cold any day. Though I believe people in really cold places are far more prepared for that kind of weather. Their homes are designed to withstand it more. They have more winter clothes than we do along the Gulf Coast. (My folks in Amarillo are much more prepared for your weather than mine). I’m assuming the pipes are more insulated there. But overall I’d far prefer heat to cold, even though July and August can be pretty miserable. At least I enjoy the many options we have for cooling off.
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Old 11-20-2022, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Joe Biden is crapping on his constituents, & instead favoring people all around the world instead....how does that feel Maine?
Bad call out. Out of all of the New England states, Mainers are the most self sufficient. I'd put them up against any state in this union for hardiness and self sufficiency.
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Old 11-20-2022, 09:16 AM
 
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I am in TX,the year where URI hits us,my 9 feet long copper pipe above the garage bursted
Copper is better than galvanized but damn I wish I had the Pex (and a newer home with better energy ratings). Oh well.
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Old 11-20-2022, 09:17 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound View Post
EIA projects heating a home with natural gas will cost an extra 25% this winter
Yet we produce enough here in the U.S. to not be needing any imports.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/...nd-exports.php
So if we're exporting more than we need, and importing none; we're creating our own supply shortage.
Of note, much of this gas isn't sent to Europe, but as per link: Mexico.
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