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Old 11-22-2022, 07:37 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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So I got to thinking aout the possible safety precautions against vehicles being used to rip 6 year olds in half in their classrooms. I think we can eliminate that risk completely. Obviously, there is already not enough clearance to drive a vehicle down a hallway and make the turn to go through the door. Even if there was the doors are too narrow. I would say this is the first layer of protection. It's not absolute as the vehicle can gain entry via a wall. *. I say we reinforce the walls.

How do people who don't see any difference between a motor vehicle accident and the intentional murders of children any different plan to eliminate this risk of gun ownership. Also, if you don't think reinforcing the walls would help them I am open to other remedies. I would appreciate it if you wouldn't nay say any of my solutions without offering some of your own. It kinda makes you look like you don't care about anyone else and just want to shoot down any possible solutions.

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Old 11-22-2022, 07:43 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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If guns don't kill people but people kill people should we keep the guns out of the hands of people who kill people?
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Old 11-22-2022, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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The point that the OP is making and I think it is a good comparison is that IF the guns were taken away, if the knives and other weapons were taken away the deranged losers would turn to cars to murder people.



actually, close...my point was if you use a car to take out many...you have the ability to claim brakes went out, hit the wrong pedal, sun in eyes etc. but push comes to shove, at the end of the day you CANNOT be charged with state and federal firearms violations which is often a separate set of penalties and/or penalty multipliers...using a firearm in a crime is much like getting the powerball multiplier (not that I have ANY experience in that)...





....and of course unlike a firearm where someone would shoot back, someone is not likely to ram you back - or else it would be.....demolition derby.




whomever said it was 100% right - trigger city - which makes me think there is a nerve there, close to home and all that
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Old 11-22-2022, 07:56 AM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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We need a car control bill passed through Congress.
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Old 11-22-2022, 08:05 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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We need a car control bill passed through Congress.
You're just a shrill for the crash test dummies.
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Old 11-22-2022, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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actually, close...my point was if you use a car to take out many...you have the ability to claim brakes went out, hit the wrong pedal, sun in eyes etc. but push comes to shove, at the end of the day you CANNOT be charged with state and federal firearms violations which is often a separate set of penalties and/or penalty multipliers...using a firearm in a crime is much like getting the powerball multiplier (not that I have ANY experience in that)...







That is true.

In the Rittenhouse case the Left was fixated on the idea that he had carried that rifle across state lines but what if instead of a rifle he had driven a car and as he was trying to get away from the people that were attacking him and trying to kill him, he had no choice but to step on that gas and run 2 over with that car and killed them? Would it have been such a big deal that he had driven that deadly weapon across the state line?



I have been to that shopping center in Hingham where the car crashed through the Apple store and it is a tightly packed and usually busy parking lot. It would be tough to get up enough speed on accident to crash through that store but I have heard reports on the local news that the car accelerated to 50-60 mph to jump the curb and go into the store. It is looking more and more like this "accident" was intentional but WHY do I have a feeling that the driver will be pleading NOT Guilty?



Of course when it comes to firearms being used in say a school shooting it is easy to say, well if the guy didn't have a gun those kids would still be alive BUT if someone is that evil, that deranged what will stop them from driving a car through a group of kids that are waiting to get on the school bus? What is to stop that guy from forcing his way onto a bus loaded with little kids and going seat to seat with a machete?



It is true that when someone uses a gun in a killing spree that it is like hitting the lottery for the media and the Anti Gun movement but it is odd how silent they are when it comes to the shooting deaths over a typical weekend in some of our cities. ?
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Old 11-22-2022, 08:14 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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The left was focused on how that situation came to be. That's the first step in solving the problem, no?
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Old 11-22-2022, 08:21 AM
 
Location: The 719
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No need to ban all cars, just assault cars.
That's good. : )
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Old 11-22-2022, 08:23 AM
 
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If guns don't kill people but people kill people should we keep the guns out of the hands of people who kill people?
That will never work kirk. Bad peeps will always get guns. Plus most cars have boxes so they can see what really went down.
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Old 11-22-2022, 08:34 AM
 
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What car travels faster than a bullet?
And you talk about stupid comparisons? Tell us, what bullet weighs 4,000 lbs?

You are clearly ignoring the obvious point that the OP was making, which is simply highlighting the fact that people who want to kill other people have an endless number of ways they can do it. From bare hands to baseball bats, cars, swords, knives, rope, poison, the list is virtually endless. This brings us to the point you leftists are loath to admit … you apparently believe that the way to eliminate murder is by getting rid of guns, failing to note thousands of years of history which shows mass murder has been around long before the discovery of gun powder, so getting rid of guns is not going to solve the problem of murderers committing murder, any more than banning ice cream could possibly eliminate obesity.
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