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Old 11-23-2022, 11:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TMSRetired View Post
But...those 80% vaccinated shouldn't even be in the hospital never mind dead.
Remember what they told you ?
Yes, I remember and it's been proven that the vaccines don't prevent hospitalization against the ever evolving variants. They worked pretty well on the original variant they were designed for and weren't too shabby on Delta. I expect "they" are going to get things wrong with novel viruses.

That said, from the same article posted in the OP, you still stand a better change with the vaccine than without.

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Let’s take a look at deaths in August, when the highly contagious BA.5 variant reached its peak:

That month, unvaccinated people aged 6 months and older died at about six times the rate of those who had received their primary series of shots.

People with one booster dose were even better protected. Unvaccinated people over the age of 5 had about 8 times the risk of dying from a coronavirus infection than those who received a booster shot.

Among individuals who were eligible to receive additional booster shots, the gap is even more striking. Unvaccinated people 50 and up had 12 times the risk of dying from covid-19 than adults the same age with two or more booster doses.

 
Old 11-23-2022, 11:39 AM
 
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Nobody. The government told you...less severe covid, no hospital and no death.
And this was after they told you "no covid" at all.

If anything there should be LESS dead who got 5+ jabs in them....not more.
There are still plenty of unvaccinated walking the streets.

So your 100% vax scenario is nothing but make believe...like the rest of the stuff going on today in the US

What will the CDC tell us next.....that the vaccinated will have a quicker less painful death than the unvaccinated ?
That's not how math works.
 
Old 11-23-2022, 11:40 AM
 
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RIP those were vaxxed. Immune systems permanently damaged.


WaPo

“For the first time, a majority of Americans dying from the coronavirus received at least the primary series of the vaccine.


Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted, according to an analysis conducted for The Health 202 by Cynthia Cox, vice president at the Kaiser Family Foundation”
Lemme guess, they were octogenarians and had multiple co-morbidities?

Just like all the other people that died from/with Covid before the vaccines.
 
Old 11-23-2022, 11:41 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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That's not how math works.
But that is how covid and the vaccines are working...math be damned
 
Old 11-23-2022, 11:41 AM
 
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I thought Lord Biden assured us that if we took this experimental injection with no long term safety studies that we would not get covid and that we would not transmit covid.

The Lord couldn't have lied to us, could he?
If you just "wear a mask"....

 
Old 11-23-2022, 11:42 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Lemme guess, they were octogenarians and had multiple co-morbidities?

Just like all the other people that died from/with Covid before the vaccines.
They don't release that type of data right away.
Just like the CDC never told us which vaccine the breakthroughs had.
 
Old 11-23-2022, 11:43 AM
 
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Is that the conclusion? That they died BECAUSE they were vaccinated. Or is it a numbers game?
It shows the vaccine does not protect against COVID.

Not sure why that had to be explained, but OK.
 
Old 11-23-2022, 11:44 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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More power to him! George Burns smoked cigars up to almost 100 years old! Godspeed!
And my mother died of lung cancer at 62. Point being, that just because someone beats the odds, that is not an indicator that the odds are invalid. We all take chances of one sort or another. It's just annoying when someone says the equivalent of "See... I played Russian roulette and I'm still alive." That's great, but that's not the norm.

And, just my own superstition, but bragging that you have beat the odds is just begging for fate to dump on you. I've done some dangerous things through the years... but, ain't no way I'm going to brag about them. I'm just lucky to have lived through them.
 
Old 11-23-2022, 11:45 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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If you just "wear a mask"....

Oh that is coming back around for a second try....

mandating masks because of people with "long covid"...to make life easier for them.
Mr. Levine said we have to change our lives to help the people with long covid.
 
Old 11-23-2022, 11:45 AM
 
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OMG! I'm permanently damaged and doomed to die! How could this have happened?!


Yes, that was sarcasm. I got the vaccine, the bivalent booster and I'm doing just dandy.
I'm just dandy without it.

And barring any other factors, you are no more protected than me from dying from COVID.

The vaccine doesn't protect people from COVID. That's the point.
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