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Old 11-25-2022, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MissTerri View Post
All over 18? I don’t think so.

https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detran...nging-genders/

This girl was put on puberty blockers shortly after coming out at 13 and had a double mastectomy at the age of 15 and then regretted it all by the age of 16.
The number 1 example that is making the rounds. The first person makes no mention where they're from but statistics from the UK are in the next paragraph so are they a Brit? There laws are different than our.

In fact none of the examples except 1 identify as American and no mention of surgeries on minors is mentioned in this country only the UK included the quoted physician who resigned from their NHS.

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Old 11-25-2022, 12:01 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Originally Posted by Retroit View Post
Liberals support the sexual indoctrination of students, allowing pornographic books and rainbow flags in schools, drag queen story hour, and field trips to drag queen shows.

Would those same liberals allow religious education in schools, religious books, crosses on the wall, priests and nun story hour, and field trips to churches?

Why should a transgender student have affirming support, but not a Christian child?
I'm seeing more and more of these claims of "drag queen story hour" things involving children by watching FOX news. I don't watch CNN nor MSNBC nor abc cbs nbs news local nor national, due to the utter echo chamber left slant they have. When I watch FOX news, it shows them (Mainstream Media) saying the same exact thing as if the news is spoon fed to them.

But, outside of FOX news, how actually prevalent is this stuff? Are drag queens all child molesters or are they not?

I want to get to the bottom of this and see what the actual stats are, including the use of Critical Race Theory.

What are they actually teaching our children? How often do parents go to PTA meeting, get shut down and get accused of being involved in Domestic Terrorism?

Where do I go to get actual answers to all this stuff?

I assumed it was all true, but if so, why wasn't this stuff overwhelmingly voted out on November 8th?

I must know but don't know where to turn to. I've heard of no actual personal accounts of this stuff. I've seen clips on FOX News though.

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Originally Posted by TMSRetired View Post
The CDC....43% of transgenders in the US are 25 or younger.
Studies say getting their bits chopped off "improves" their well being.
Studies also say puberty blockers can ease their anguish over being the wrong sex.

I hope the NYT is "reputable" enough for you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/10/s...al-survey.html

This is coming from our esteemed government. You do believe them right ?
New York Slimes? Esteemed Gov't? No, not the reliable sources I was hoping for.

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Originally Posted by xray731 View Post
I'm playing devil's advocate - why should I have to homeschool which means I probably couldn't work or pay for a Christian or private school when I'm paying school taxes to send my children to the public school. And I don't think it's that wide a brush as the media paints anyone not agreeing with CRT or trans sex ed as horrible people.

Maybe put both issues to a vote and the public can decide if they feel it's appropriate as we are the ones paying for the public school teachers' salaries and facilities.
That seems to be the acid test to me. If this danger is not getting voted out, then what? Is it not as it seems? Is it dangerous and voters are missing this? Do voters really not what's best for us?

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Devil’s advocate. We all pay for taxes for things we don’t use or approve of. Public institutions are for the public not everyone feels the same way. Generally speaking public schools aim to teach the average student. The gifted and the slower students get overlooked in that case it’s up to the parent to make sure their children’s needs are met. Same thing if you don’t approve of the curriculum.

Statements like liberals approve of porn books for school children is painting with a very wide brush. Both sides should be more tolerant and understanding of the other
Interesting.

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Old 11-25-2022, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
Of course they wouldn't.

They are trained to seek out the correct diagnosis before beginning any treatment.

Gender affirming care is not treatment. It is a person telling the doctor what they want and the doctor complying, going along and encouraging the person. ANYONE can be a gender affirming care treater. You just agree. And encourage. And direct the next step in creating the new persona. Get an NP to write some prescriptions. That's it.

You know why it's not "treatment"? Because they decided being trans isn't a mental illness. See the catch-22? They've gotten around the very protocols that were needed to filter out those with other mental illnesses. Since they don't have to see if the person is depressed, angry, anxious, or has been abused or has body dysmorphia or an eating disorder.

And there have been many instances of surgeries on minors. That's a nonnegotiable fact. It happened. It continues to happen. To pretend otherwise is delusional. I've posted a ridiculous number of links on that also.

Yet posters respond duuuuuuh, whaaaaat? that never happened. [Here's 20 more links] Duuuuuh, whaaaaaat? No, that never happened. where's the proof? [Here's 20 more links]. Lather rinse repeat.

That's the real mental illness. People head in sand, a$$ in the air, REFUSING to see the truth.
That's your diagnosis and proper physician would have the child working with a Psychologist/Psychiatrist of some type that specializes with this condition. As I said all ready what would you have them do send the child off to reprograming camp...

People seek Psychiatric help for a number of reasons that are not "metal illness" but I suppose you view anyone seeking that help as mentally ill or just weak minded.

Your posted links are the same right-wing sources that keep making the rounds, as another poster just posted the #1 story making the rounds the only mention of "surgery" on a minor is from the UK. I'm not getting into a discussion on the National Health System you can do that on your own.

Your posts are too often Lather, rinse, repeat especially on schools and other social issues, whos refusing to see the truth.
 
Old 11-25-2022, 12:15 PM
 
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That's your diagnosis and proper physician would have the child working with a Psychologist/Psychiatrist of some type that specializes with this condition. As I said all ready what would you have them do send the child off to reprograming camp...

People seek Psychiatric help for a number of reasons that are not "metal illness" but I suppose you view anyone seeking that help as mentally ill or just weak minded.

Your posted links are the same right-wing sources that keep making the rounds, as another poster just posted the #1 story making the rounds the only mention of "surgery" on a minor is from the UK. I'm not getting into a discussion on the National Health System you can do that on your own.

Your posts are too often Lather, rinse, repeat especially on schools and other social issues, whos refusing to see the truth.
No.

I think people who have metal illnesses should seek help. It's the sane thing to do.

Since trans is no longer considered a mental illness ... the 80% of kids who would age out of it given PROPER PSYCHH CARE or just being left alone ... are no longer aging out. Because we have a rash of kids being funneled into the trans pipeline. Into the programming camp, as you so carelessly call it.

Why? Because they are not getting a diagnosis of what is ACTUALLY going on. Their depression, anxiety, eating disorders, self multination, et al are not being treated. Nothing is treated. Nothing.

It's a shame that in your zeal to promote transgenderism you are condemning kids who have legitimate mental health issues to remain undiagnosed and untreated.

It's like you want that 80% that used to age out of trans ideology? To remain unwell, and then add in a bunch of drugs that do IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE, as well as create additional mental illness -- talk to any women who has ever been put on testosterone how it changes emotions -- which will also remain untreated.

Why don't you want the kids to age out? Why are you demanding that all the kids be damaged through trans "treatment" and "therapy"?

That's the real question. And the virtue signalers go do do do do do do doooooo.

Because they do NOT care about the kids. That's been made perfectly clear. All they care about is pushing trans ideology.

The kids? Meh. Collateral damage. Just keep pushing the ideology.
 
Old 11-25-2022, 12:23 PM
 
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You can’t indoctrinate someone into being LGBTQ. You can, however, indoctrinate someone into irrationally fearing and hating people for their gender identity and sexual orientation.
 
Old 11-25-2022, 12:29 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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You can’t indoctrinate someone into being LGBTQ. You can, however, indoctrinate someone into irrationally fearing and hating people for their gender identity and sexual orientation.
They aren't. Psychologists are "encouraging" them to explore all options because it's no longer stigmatizing.
Schools are just providing a "safe and supporting environment".

No sites mention "indoctrination". That's one of the extreme words used to rile up emotions.
 
Old 11-25-2022, 12:30 PM
 
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You can’t indoctrinate someone into being LGBTQ. You can, however, indoctrinate someone into irrationally fearing and hating people for their gender identity and sexual orientation.
False. Indoctrination works. You have to target children. Whose minds are malleable. Who don't understand their sexual feelings.

It's happening right now.

No one is "afraid"of LGBTQ people.

Leave the kids ALONE. Why is that such a terrifying idea to LGBTQ? Why can't they leave the kids alone? It's like pathologic OCD. They can't help themselves. Must have drag queen story hour. Must have Twerk fest for kids. Must have 4 year olds playing gender identify games. Must have 6 year olds participate in PRIDE parades. Must give 8 year olds worksheets to fill out. Must have gay after school clubs for 12 year olds.

It's relentless. If you want people to believe that LGBTQ is NOT going after the children? Then stop all the behaviors that are the very definition of going after the children.
 
Old 11-25-2022, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
No.

I think people who have metal illnesses should seek help. It's the sane thing to do.

Since trans is no longer considered a mental illness ... the 80% of kids who would age out of it given PROPER PSYCHH CARE or just being left alone ... are no longer aging out. Because we have a rash of kids being funneled into the trans pipeline. Into the programming camp, as you so carelessly call it.

Why? Because they are not getting a diagnosis of what is ACTUALLY going on. Their depression, anxiety, eating disorders, self multination, et al are not being treated. Nothing is treated. Nothing.

It's a shame that in your zeal to promote transgenderism you are condemning kids who have legitimate mental health issues to remain undiagnosed and untreated.

It's like you want that 80% that used to age out of trans ideology? To remain unwell, and then add in a bunch of drugs that do IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE, as well as create additional mental illness -- talk to any women who has ever been put on testosterone how it changes emotions -- which will also remain untreated.

Why don't you want the kids to age out? Why are you demanding that all the kids be damaged through trans "treatment" and "therapy"?

That's the real question. And the virtue signalers go do do do do do do doooooo.

Because they do NOT care about the kids. That's been made perfectly clear. All they care about is pushing trans ideology.

The kids? Meh. Collateral damage. Just keep pushing the ideology.
If 80% of kids needing psychological treatment of any kind had ever received it we would see half the problems that we see in kids today. This pipeline is your words seeing you believe that they are being forced into it when the reality is the complete opposite. Try talking to a professional school counselor and you would find that the actual numbers are far lower and their role is to listen and try to have the child talk to their parents and have them involved, not indoctrinate as you so often claim.

If you want to blame the Internet & Social Media then we can toss it back on the parents who never check where they go, give them phones with unlimited use.

I've made no statement promoting anything for a child that is their parents place. What I won't do is condemn them over the choice(s) their making, its not my journey or my place, there are too many out there like you condemning them already.
 
Old 11-25-2022, 12:40 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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No.

I think people who have metal illnesses should seek help. It's the sane thing to do.
You need to stop already.

WHO changed transgenderism from a mental health issue to a normal sexual behaviour in 2019.
 
Old 11-25-2022, 12:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by VA Yankee View Post
If 80% of kids needing psychological treatment of any kind had ever received it we would see half the problems that we see in kids today. This pipeline is your words seeing you believe that they are being forced into it when the reality is the complete opposite. Try talking to a professional school counselor and you would find that the actual numbers are far lower and their role is to listen and try to have the child talk to their parents and have them involved, not indoctrinate as you so often claim.

If you want to blame the Internet & Social Media then we can toss it back on the parents who never check where they go, give them phones with unlimited use.

I've made no statement promoting anything for a child that is their parents place. What I won't do is condemn them over the choice(s) their making, its not my journey or my place, there are too many out there like you condemning them already.
I am not condemning the kids.

I am condemning the idiots who are actively destroying the kids.

The kids are collateral damage. Literally.

Leave them ALONE.
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