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Old 11-27-2022, 04:09 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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The government did not care. The government is addicted to control as a fetish, public be damned.

Parents who were sufficiently motivated did set up "learning pods", see PODS, or Parent Organized Discovery Sites Upending Public Education in Age of COVID and The Kindergarten Exodus; Blue State Lockdowns Worsen Gap Between Poor and Well-to-Do. Other than that education basically got slaughtered by the Covidiots. The conspirators in slaughtering education did not want to be shown up by DIY'ers. DIY is what made this country great. Think Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville.
History attests to that. All governments get like that after a while...power, control and money
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Old 11-27-2022, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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Economic collapse similar to the Great Depression would send too many over the edge at this point.
Or it might make them get off their phones and realize that they didn’t really have such unimaginable difficulties after all. Maybe when the social pressure goes away because they have real problems, some of the sickness that accompanies it might go away.
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Old 11-27-2022, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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They are being coddled too much and worse they are all being taught that they are some kind of victim possibly born into the wrong gender or they will become a victim due to some outside force such as Climate change, Racism or Donald Trump Republicans and there is nothing they can do about it.
Meh. I grew up doing duck-and-cover drills in the school hallway or under my desk, with the Fallout Shelter sign at the front door. The beaches at the end of my street were covered with brown foam from the paper mill a few blocks away. My extended family (not my parents; if they had any prejudices, they never let me see them) were as racist as they come.

I educated myself and contributed what little I could to protest armed conflict and nuclear weapons proliferation, learned how I could contribute to improving the air, water, and litter pollution, learned about people who were different other than myself, made sure I was registered to vote as soon as I could. Why are you so sure kids today don't think they can do anything about the local, regional, national, and global problems they face?
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Old 11-27-2022, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I want to add something. And when those kids start having problems or engage in maladaptive behaviors, we sit them in front of incompetent shrinks, who pretend to be their friend while secretly helping everyone but them. The ones who grill them about "feelings" (sometimes even not believing them if it's an unexpected answer) and feed them trite platitudes, while blatantly withholding advice that could save those kids' lives.
...and those incompetent shrinks convince the parents that the kid needs drugs shoved down their throats for their "anxiety" and "hyperactivity".
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Old 11-27-2022, 07:06 PM
 
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Got one word....isolation
Yes I was thinking that too but then I think how the hell does a 5 year old even know what death is or suicide for that matter? at their age all the cartoon characters bounce back up after being shot or smashed.

I'm think too maybe throwing out the family pet they came to love and have fun with during the pandemic is making the depressed or thinking Mommy and Daddy could make me go away too. I have no doubt that is in their head and to afraid to say it. Even if told they wouldn't make them go away the kid is not going to believe that. Those feelings are real and never go away.
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Old 11-28-2022, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Crook County, Hellinois
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...and those incompetent shrinks convince the parents that the kid needs drugs shoved down their throats for their "anxiety" and "hyperactivity".
Most, if not all, shrinks are against medications of any kind. It cuts into their income. They'd rather have a kid coming to them for many months on end, while wasting his/her time and doing nothing to actually help him/her, rather than a kid who benefits from a medication in a matter of weeks.

You're thinking of psychiatrists and pharmacists. I still think medical pill-pushing is a lesser of two evils, compared to months of time- and money-wasting "feelings talk". My own therapist in the past has a big problem with me for that belief.
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Old 11-28-2022, 06:43 AM
 
Location: US
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A good psychotherapist works closely with the patient's psychiatrist. They communicate to each other regarding the patient's health. They know when the medication needs to be adjusted and other details.

Sometimes one needs both, the pill and to talk to a psychotherapist for a certain period of time.
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Old 11-28-2022, 07:18 AM
 
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The government shut down the schools with no advance warning to parents.
None of them had any time to plan any type of alternatives.

2 working adults....they cannot just up and quit and not know when they can go back to work.

Sorry..the government totally messed that up and the onus lays on their feet.
I guess it depends on where one lives and which government. Nobody stopped me, I did.



Like the old saying .... happens. We have to deal with it. These plagues come around every 100 years or so. Maybe this time we should take notes so those 100 years from now will know what worked and what didn't.

I have seen photos of mask wearing people the last time it happened.

The local government is us. It is our friends, neighbors and cousins. They did the best they could within the perimeters they had to del with. To call it some sinister plot is a reach.

I may not like some decisions, but sinister? No.

And IMO, we need to fine tune our listening skills and reading comprehension. And those making the calls need to be very specific. Cloth masks? That can be anything from gauze to canvas cloth.
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Old 11-28-2022, 04:21 PM
 
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Express Scripts, a mail-order pharmacy, recently reported that prescriptions of antidepressants for teenagers rose 38 percent from 2015 to 2019, compared with 12 percent for adults.


This Teen Was Prescribed 10 Psychiatric Drugs. She’s Not Alone.

Increasingly, anxious and depressed teens are using multiple, powerful psychiatric drugs, many of them untested in adolescents or for use in tandem.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/27/h...ric-drugs.html




The United States Food and Drug Administration issued a Black Box warning in October 2004 after placebo-controlled trials of antidepressant medications found an increased risk of suicidal thoughts and behaviors among children and adolescents taking antidepressant medications relative to placebo.
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Old 11-28-2022, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Express Scripts, a mail-order pharmacy, recently reported that prescriptions of antidepressants for teenagers rose 38 percent from 2015 to 2019, compared with 12 percent for adults.


This Teen Was Prescribed 10 Psychiatric Drugs. She’s Not Alone.

Increasingly, anxious and depressed teens are using multiple, powerful psychiatric drugs, many of them untested in adolescents or for use in tandem.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/27/h...ric-drugs.html




The United States Food and Drug Administration issued a Black Box warning in October 2004 after placebo-controlled trials of antidepressant medications found an increased risk of suicidal thoughts and behaviors among children and adolescents taking antidepressant medications relative to placebo.
Lifestyle is status quo, therefore pills are the only option...

When will people realize that environment is often a problem, and treating brain/biology malfunction is not as simple as a list of pills? Oh yeah, money and thus a disincentive to solve problems.
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