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Even before abortion pills most abortions didn’t use the suction or saline methods as most abortions even way back when happen in the first trimester. You can keep dreaming for personhood and murder charges most Americans disagree with your extreme views.
Aspiration (suction) and D&C was the standard for most of the past 48 years. Anyone that claims differently is ignorant of the facts.
It wasn't until 2017 that medication abortions represented a third of baby executions.
Most disagreed with Dobbs. They even protested outside the homes of the Justices (they still are)...threatened them, even.
They ruled to overturn Roe v Wade anyway.
The new Justices are young...they will be there for a long time. I know how much you all like that.
I predict...Personhood status is coming to humans as they gestate...then, the matter is settled. At least from a legal standpoint.
That's just the logical progression, given this SCOTUS.
That is already all paid for...by Society, through taxes.
Medicaid, WIC, SNAP, Section 8 housing, etc, etc.
All covered.
Only the most evil and depraved would think that the solution to cut down on costs is to wantonly execute the baby.
It just shows how sick, lowdown, and evil many people are. Worse yet...they think they are cool! Pathetic.
Yep force women to birth children they don't want and then just wash your hands of it. Typical so called pro-life response.
None of you give a damn about children once they are born.
So, a woman who has 3 children and doesn't want a 4th will be killed leaving her other children motherless. Perfect solution.
And, F the first amendment. Keep those evil women not only barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, but silent as well. Lots of luck silencing millions of Americans.
Dream on with regard to your personhood fantasies.
Dobbs was the beginning of what women will make the end of the war on their rights.
Yeah...murderers (especially baby killers) are removed from their family while they serve their sentences. That's pretty much how it works in a decent and civilized society. You didn't know that?
Probably best not to do murder, huh?
Of course...there are those that would kill babies anyway, just to satisfy selfish desires. Good that we remove them from society, in my view. If someone could execute their own child, what wouldn't they do?
Yep force women to birth children they don't want and then just wash your hands of it. Typical so called pro-life response.
None of you give a damn about children once they are born.
Nobody "forces" anything on women. That describes rape.
Their circumstance is completely self-imposed.
The babies' circumstance is one that is forced upon it...by the actions of the Mother.
We pay the taxes that cover all their needs. And we don't "wash our hands of it"...those taxes never stop.
How much more "caring" can one reasonably get?
Yeah...murderers (especially baby killers) are removed from their family while they serve their sentences. That's pretty much how it works in a decent and civilized society. You didn't know that?
Probably best not to do murder, huh?
Of course...there are those that would kill babies anyway, just to satisfy selfish desires. Good that we remove them from society, in my view. If someone could execute their own child, what wouldn't they do?
There is nothing decent and civilized about the society you envision.
What I know is that your thought process is extremely twisted.
These threads prove over and over again why men should have nothing to do with the reproductive rights of women.
The hatred on display for women is sickening. But, thanks for the reminder that people like you must be defeated and put in their place to mind their own business once and for all time.
Deal. You can stand down since no helpless women are waiting around for you to defend them anyway. We also aren't interested in your version of what our lives should look like. BTW I wouldn't quit my day job on the belief I was some brilliant constitutional scholar if I were you. Any fool knows that liberty includes the fundamental right to control our own reproduction and shape our lives and families as we see fit.
The real "fool" (and evil) thinks that "liberty" and "shaping our lives and families as we see fit" would include executing their offspring.
No...no decent and civilized society allows the wanton killing of innocent others...and calls that "liberty".
Just when you think the arguments couldn't get any lower and more sick & depraved...someone refers to Baby Killing as a "fundamental right and liberty".
Yeah...murderers (especially baby killers) are removed from their family while they serve their sentences. That's pretty much how it works in a decent and civilized society. You didn't know that?
Probably best not to do murder, huh?
Of course...there are those that would kill babies anyway, just to satisfy selfish desires. Good that we remove them from society, in my view. If someone could execute their own child, what wouldn't they do?
And sponteaneous abortions? Are we going to investigate every miscarriage to ensure it was not the fault of the mother?
Negligent homicide, even though it would be incredibly hard to determine cause and fault?
Once personhood for embryos is established, having that one too many cups of coffee at 5 weeks (that probably didn't cause it but hmmm, who knows, so a trial is in order?) may land you in very hot water if you're pregnant.
The real "fool" (and evil) thinks that "liberty" and "shaping our lives and families as we see fit" would include executing their offspring.
No...no decent and civilized society allows the wanton killing of innocent others...and calls that "liberty".
Just when you think the arguments couldn't get any lower and more sick & depraved...someone refers to Baby Killing as a "fundamental right and liberty".
We are a decent and civilized society. Abortion is legal in many states. Other states have restrictions. Let’s not pretend you don’t have some pro choice views you think abortion is fine for a rape, incest or life of the mother.
Aspiration (suction) and D&C was the standard for most of the past 48 years. Anyone that claims differently is ignorant of the facts.
It wasn't until 2017 that medication abortions represented a third of baby executions.
Most disagreed with Dobbs. They even protested outside the homes of the Justices (they still are)...threatened them, even.
They ruled to overturn Roe v Wade anyway.
The new Justices are young...they will be there for a long time. I know how much you all like that.
I predict...Personhood status is coming to humans as they gestate...then, the matter is settled. At least from a legal standpoint.
That's just the logical progression, given this SCOTUS.
Pass whatever you want. It will settle nothing.
Women will not obey laws that violate their rights and SCOTUS has no power of enforcement.
SCOTUS lost any legitimacy they had left even with regard to interpreting law with DOBBS.
The only thing we agree on is the new Justices are young......hence clearly why they are so stupid. They will obviously be doing a lot of damage to this country on other issues as well. Especially when you add in the fact that some of them are liars on top of their stupidity.
You act like you don't understand that pro-choice women and the men who support them could bring this country to its knees if necessary. It is fascinating to watch such a delusional thought process.
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