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Old 11-29-2022, 09:59 AM
 
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Because the play does not normalize pedophilia anymore than Silence of the Lambs normalized serial killing and cannabilsm.

A constant theme in art -- in books, plays, visual arts, is trying to find the human elements in the worst of people.

Everything from Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde, to Frankenstein, to Silence of the Lambs to this play.

None of those forms of art normalize any of it..........
It sounds like it’s meant to evoke sympathy for pedophiles, while minimizing the harm they caused to their victims.

 
Old 11-29-2022, 10:00 AM
 
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Interesting to read the the play’s most disagreeable character is the adult victim of one of the pedophiles. He is described as irritating and that he was urged to confront his abuser by his “misguided” wife. The article says that the playwright could not hide his scorn for this character, the victim of childhood sexual abuse. The victim confronting his abuser is described as “indulgent marinating in self pity”.

Wow!

Meanwhile the pedophiles in this drama are punished much more harshly then pedophiles are punished in real life.

What a sick joke.
Is it true that pedophiles in real life aren't harshly treated.

From what I understand many of them are sentenced to a life of ostracization after they have 'served' their time. (as it should be)

And we are still avoiding at all costs the fact that most pedophiles are straight men whose victims are people in their families.

What do we do to avoid that kind of fact.....
 
Old 11-29-2022, 10:06 AM
 
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Is it true that pedophiles in real life aren't harshly treated.

From what I understand many of them are sentenced to a life of ostracization after they have 'served' their time. (as it should be)
No, not really. Their sentences tend to be short if they are convicted at all. Convicting sex offenders is no easy task as it’s often a he said, she said situation and victims have a hard time speaking up at all due to the feelings of shame and concern that no one will believe them.

Victims of childhood sexual abuse carry it with them for the rest of their lives and it impacts them in numerous negative ways.

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And we are still avoiding at all costs the fact that most pedophiles are straight men whose victims are people in their families.

What do we do to avoid that kind of fact.....
What about it? Who cares if they are straight or gay? Is it really any consolation for a girl to be raped by her father, brother or uncle vs her soccer coach or her neighbor?
 
Old 11-29-2022, 10:11 AM
 
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...are your synapsis on speaking terms?

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it's a great assignment....if you're trying to normalize something

find a way to make it acceptable
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The assignment wasn't to make their behavior acceptable. The exact opposite. It was to look at someone who is undeniably horrible, and a perpetrator of evil, and look hard enough to pull out interesting things about that person - positive attributes.
 
Old 11-29-2022, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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i have sympathy for the 18 year old being labeled a sex offender and thrown in prison for being with his 17 year old girlfriend. I have sympathy for the middle schoolers charged with the aforementioned for stuff they send on snapchat.

the 40 year old coach luring a 12 year old is completely different.



Exactly BUT it seems that the Left is all in favor of that man manipulating the kid.



Pedophiles are the worse type of scum. Anyone that manipulates a young person should get exactly what is coming to them. Why should they get any sympathy from a decent society? Of course the Dems are doing their best to lower the standards of our once "decent" society.



The Left is normalizing what used to be taboo. We now have men in lingerie hanging out with kids in Public Libraries and the parents are ok with it.
 
Old 11-29-2022, 10:13 AM
 
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Don’t like a subject matter of a play, movie, tv show or a conversation? Don’t go see it or engage. Simple. This subject will never be mainstream nor will it ever be acceptable.
 
Old 11-29-2022, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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Hey kids, that uncle that molested you? He's really a good guy. Remember that art project you did?

Out of all the bizarre progressive rationalizations I've seen on C-D this takes top prize. Truly.
I see that differently. This is a great lesson for kids to learn. I think kids (anyone really) need to know that a really good guy, a dog lover, an artist, a philanthropist, a video game whiz, can still be a really, really horrible person. Few, if any, people present themselves as truly horrible and it's important to know that a nice neighbor might not be so nice even if he does have a cool drone.
 
Old 11-29-2022, 10:15 AM
 
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This subject will never be mainstream nor will it ever be acceptable.
they are working on it as hard as they can......

"so what he did that, he made beautiful flower arrangements"
 
Old 11-29-2022, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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Much like all the book banning going on now, people are condemning works without having read or seen them.
 
Old 11-29-2022, 10:43 AM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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The assignment wasn't to make their behavior acceptable. The exact opposite. It was to look at someone who is undeniably horrible, and a perpetrator of evil, and look hard enough to pull out interesting things about that person - positive attributes.

Charles Manson was a poet, for example.

To be able to entertain an idea that is opposite of conventional wisdom, is a nuanced ability that is part of maturing and education. Not everybody gets there.
Trying to normalize a person that has lost his humanity is a futile exercise. Finding interesting things about him and assigning positive attributes is just ridiculous.
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