Health Care Paperwork Cost US $812 Billion in 2017 (regular, document)
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Back in 2001, made general check up appointments for my three kids. Dr.'s office calls me back, they aren't covered for well care visits. Phone insurance company. Yeah she has to put in as a 'physical'. Phone dcotor's office back...hey put it in as a physical. Dr.'s clerk says "oh yeah -- that happens all the time.............." Took everything I had to say -- then why didn't you try the second code before trying to charge me full price for a visit.
Sure more paperwork as more people on more insurance.
But this whole dance with insurance companies, and health care providers....Americans have been dealing with it for years.
I won't go into the fiasco that followed with required immunizaitons for the kids and wanting to charge me 75 dollars a pop until I told them I would go to county health office and pay 10 dolalrs and then the office found some forms I could sign to get the 10 dollar shot at THEIR office.
Health care in the USA is big business and you never know if you are getting something you need or just something that makes money for all involved.
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I got "sports physicals" for cash..cheaper and no need to go thru insurance.
If your wife worked in medical billing for two decades, she would know that ACA regulations made little difference in medical billing. It was no different before the ACA took effect.
but iit is all GOVERNMENT REQUIRED paperwork... the problem starts with the government..... Medicare for example has MORE paperwork than does private insurance...not much more, but still more
If your wife worked in medical billing for two decades, she would know that ACA regulations made little difference in medical billing. It was no different before the ACA took effect.
There is a difference. I had BCBS before ACA and BCBS under ACA...yes there was a difference.
And not only in paperwork but website pages as well.
ACA was not some invisible act that required no changes.
The IRS got involved early on because of tax provisions, requirements and restrictions.
1094-C, 1094-B, 1095-B.......
If your wife worked in medical billing for two decades, she would know that ACA regulations made little difference in medical billing. It was no different before the ACA took effect.
It was hugely different before ACA took effect, actually. But go ahead, try to tell us otherwise.
If your wife worked in medical billing for two decades, she would know that ACA regulations made little difference in medical billing. It was no different before the ACA took effect.
the ACA made a big difference, as costs changed, coverage changed, etc
for most of us, the cost went up, and the coverage went down
Denials and approvals are not new.
But the amount of paperwork involved now.....
Add to that EHR's that must be maintained
Paperwork for who? Electronic health records (EHR) should theoretically improve and streamline care. My wife is a CRNP and reviews faxed paper charts (from other hospitals) every night for the patients she will be seeing the next day.
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Originally Posted by moneill
Back in 2001, made general check up appointments for my three kids. Dr.'s office calls me back, they aren't covered for well care visits. Phone insurance company. Yeah she has to put in as a 'physical'. Phone dcotor's office back...hey put it in as a physical. Dr.'s clerk says "oh yeah -- that happens all the time.............." Took everything I had to say -- then why didn't you try the second code before trying to charge me full price for a visit.
Sure more paperwork as more people on more insurance.
But this whole dance with insurance companies, and health care providers....Americans have been dealing with it for years.
I won't go into the fiasco that followed with required immunizaitons for the kids and wanting to charge me 75 dollars a pop until I told them I would go to county health office and pay 10 dolalrs and then the office found some forms I could sign to get the 10 dollar shot at THEIR office.
Health care in the USA is big business and you never know if you are getting something you need or just something that makes money for all involved.
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I'm running into something similar with my eye doctor. I had a checkup and the doctor said my vision had actually improved. I get a bill for a couple hundred bucks. The doctor's office said I hadn't met my personal deductible. The insurance says a checkup should be covered under insurance. Seems they ran some test that are not included under the annual wellness visit.
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero
but iit is all GOVERNMENT REQUIRED paperwork... the problem starts with the government..... Medicare for example has MORE paperwork than does private insurance...not much more, but still more
Again, paperwork for who. I have Medicare and private insurance. I don't have any paperwork. The problem I have is figuring what I actually owe and what my costs will be.
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Originally Posted by TMSRetired
There is a difference. I had BCBS before ACA and BCBS under ACA...yes there was a difference.
And not only in paperwork but website pages as well.
ACA was not some invisible act that required no changes.
The IRS got involved early on because of tax provisions, requirements and restrictions.
1094-C, 1094-B, 1095-B.......
Nothing has changed for me. I don't understand all these paperwork comments.
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero
the ACA made a big difference, as costs changed, coverage changed, etc
for most of us, the cost went up, and the coverage went down
the ACA was/is a pisspoor 3000 page law
How do you know the ACA had anything to do with any of these issues?
I have lots of issues with healthcare. I was supposed to have a procedure done. I was waiting in the exam room when the doctor walked in and said they couldn't do the procedure because I was on Eliquis. All my doctors, hospitals, and pharmacy are all part of the same system and the Eliquis is clearly on the online medical record.
With this same doctor, they did a urinalysis during my first visit. I got a bill from Quest for the test. I would've been covered if they had used the health system's own lab.
Scheduling visits is also an issue. I can't call this office directly. I have had to call their central scheduling number to reschedule this procedure, except they can't schedule that procedure. Therefore, someone has to call me back.
Paperwork for who? Electronic health records (EHR) should theoretically improve and streamline care. My wife is a CRNP and reviews faxed paper charts (from other hospitals) every night for the patients she will be seeing the next day.
paperwork/computer/fax work, the point is there are MORE processes now than ever before.... and 99.99% are due to government regulations
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Again, paperwork for who. I have Medicare and private insurance. I don't have any paperwork. The problem I have is figuring what I actually owe and what my costs will be.
paperwork for the provider....
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How do you know the ACA had anything to do with any of these issues?
I have lots of issues with healthcare. I was supposed to have a procedure done. I was waiting in the exam room when the doctor walked in and said they couldn't do the procedure because I was on Eliquis. All my doctors, hospitals, and pharmacy are all part of the same system and the Eliquis is clearly on the online medical record.
With this same doctor, they did a urinalysis during my first visit. I got a bill from Quest for the test. I would've been covered if they had used the health system's own lab.
Scheduling visits is also an issue. I can't call this office directly. I have had to call their central scheduling number to reschedule this procedure, except they can't schedule that procedure. Therefore, someone has to call me back.
electronic records are SUPPOSED TO help...but as you just showed, they dont...not all systems talk with each other
the ACA was supposed to fix some of these issues...but the ACA failed, and actually made things worse
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