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Old 11-29-2022, 12:02 PM
 
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The countries agreed that we are now in a "crisis" and drastic measures must be taken.

Hence the 50% reduction by 2030 and 100% reduction by 2050.
Time to introduce the world to the right of Carousel, like in the movie Logan's Run. We need to rid the planet of 4 or 5 billion natural resource consuming humans. It's the only way. The only question is at what age will ones "Last Day" be ?

Also, some good starting points would be to ground all air traffic, and shipping, and stop cutting down forests. Until we see these small steps being made, I don't think we are taking this climate change thing seriously.
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:08 PM
 
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Time to introduce the world to the right of Carousel, like in the movie Logan's Run. We need to rid the planet of 4 or 5 billion natural resource consuming humans. It's the only way. The only question is at what age will ones "Last Day" be ?

Also, some good starting points would be to ground all air traffic, and shipping, and stop cutting down forests. Until we see these small steps being made, I don't think we are taking this climate change thing seriously.
If only we weren't so profit driven and bounded to the idea of infinite growth on a finite planet.


It's like a smoker being told he's developing lung cancer, and is mad at the doctor instead of his smoking habit.


He fears the surgeries, the treatments, how painful it's gonna be. But he doesn't think to himself "my smoking caused this". He instead thinks, the doctors made it up. Or they're trying to take money from him etc. Anything but his habit he blames for his current predicament.
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:08 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Time to introduce the world to the right of Carousel, like in the movie Logan's Run. We need to rid the planet of 4 or 5 billion natural resource consuming humans. It's the only way. The only question is at what age will ones "Last Day" be ?

Also, some good starting points would be to ground all air traffic, and shipping, and stop cutting down forests. Until we see these small steps being made, I don't think we are taking this climate change thing seriously.
Oh we will feel it. The elites won't as they jet all over the world on their private planes.
We will be the ones that suffer so they can live their life of luxury.
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:11 PM
 
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Oh we will feel it. The elites won't as they jet all over the world on their private planes.
We will be the ones that suffer so they can live their life of luxury.
You are a bit late. Everything that contributed to climate change funded the lavish lifestyles of the oil tycoon elites.
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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SWELL! Just as I was looking at the overstock of pet food and wondering if it was time to trim back on those subscriptions.

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There's 7.7 or 8 billion people on this planet. There will be LESS not MORE people by 2040.
What will the bulldozers run on to bury the bodies?
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:38 PM
 
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It'll be OK, all the farmers can just learn to code. Maybe the coal miners can teach them.
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Farming causes nitrogen pollution. Too much nitrogen in the atmosphere makes breathing difficult.

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Excess nitrogen in the air can impair our ability to breathe, limit visibility and alter plant growth. Nutrient pollution is one of America's most widespread, costly and challenging environmental problems,
Nitrogen? I wonder whether they are talking about nitrous oxides? Not the same thing!

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Time to introduce the world to the right of Carousel, like in the movie Logan's Run. We need to rid the planet of 4 or 5 billion natural resource consuming humans. It's the only way. The only question is at what age will ones "Last Day" be ?

Also, some good starting points would be to ground all air traffic, and shipping, and stop cutting down forests. Until we see these small steps being made, I don't think we are taking this climate change thing seriously.
I don't think the climate change thing has been logically thought through. I see a lot of hysteria which in my opinion is only going to make matters worse.
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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heard about this in another context.


In order to reduce nitrogen or CO2, they will reduce fertilizer and agricultural production.



Less food = higher costs for food. After a couple years, less food = food shortages.


"food shortages" means starvation and death, on a global and biblical scale. You'll see it first in the poorest countries in Africa, and with the war in Ukraine (they produce ALOT of wheat in case you didnt know... but not now).


There's 7.7 or 8 billion people on this planet. There will be LESS not MORE people by 2040.
And all those decaying bodies will produce tonnes of methane. Or if they are incinerated then they will produce tonnes of CO2, both at the incineration end and at the power generation end. It's a win-win. Not.
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Old 11-29-2022, 01:16 PM
 
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Farming causes nitrogen pollution. Too much nitrogen in the atmosphere makes breathing difficult.



Nitrogen? I wonder whether they are talking about nitrous oxides? Not the same thing!


I don't think the climate change thing has been logically thought through. I see a lot of hysteria which in my opinion is only going to make matters worse.
pretty sure the nitrogen in this case is the non-atmospheric kind used in fertilizer.
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Old 11-29-2022, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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pretty sure the nitrogen in this case is the non-atmospheric kind used in fertilizer.
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Nitrogen dioxide (NO2) is a gas that is mainly produced during the combustion of fossil fuels, along with nitric oxide (NO). NO2 can also be formed when NO reacts with certain gases in the atmosphere.
Aah! Found it.

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When used in excess, nitrogen fertilisers can be oxidised and lost to the air as nitrous oxide. Nitrous oxide is a long-lived greenhouse gas that contributes to global warming. It stays in the atmosphere for an average of 114 years and is 300 times more potent than carbon dioxide.
So it's when used in excess that nitrous oxide is formed. Sounds like a manageable issue. So by shutting down agriculture in the Netherlands, a country in which such emissions can be controlled and shifting food production to countries where such emission are poorly controlled, really makes a lot of sense.
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