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Old 12-03-2022, 09:49 AM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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As a former Democrat and Liberal, I remember when Liberals were against certain things.

Liberals were against the Government using its agencies to spy on its citizens. That's why we had a major issue with Bush.

Liberals were against the Government using its agencies to go after its political opponents.

Liberals were against the Government trying to control the news flow and the flow of information.

Liberals were against the Government using its power to try to control what people can and cannot say or hear.

Why has the left abandoned what they once stood for?

Why is the left now supporting and/or defending the very things they once stood against?

When was the turning point?

Why did they change?

What is their end goal?

How come they cannot see the danger in what they are supporting?
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Old 12-03-2022, 09:50 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Because the Democratic Party has been taken over by far left progressives...DSA specifically.
And so it has become "my way or you are the enemy".
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Old 12-03-2022, 09:52 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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They aren’t liberals anymore. They are Marxists. “American Marxist” by Mark Levin should be required reading in every American high school.
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Old 12-03-2022, 09:54 AM
 
Location: My house
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the free thinking liberals of the 60s and 70s who would “question authority” have become cheerleaders for big government and big corporations.
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Old 12-03-2022, 10:09 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by Stephan A Smith View Post
As a former Democrat and Liberal, I remember when Liberals were against certain things.

Liberals were against the Government using its agencies to spy on its citizens. That's why we had a major issue with Bush.

Liberals were against the Government using its agencies to go after its political opponents.

Liberals were against the Government trying to control the news flow and the flow of information.

Liberals were against the Government using its power to try to control what people can and cannot say or hear.

Why has the left abandoned what they once stood for?

Why is the left now supporting and/or defending the very things they once stood against?

When was the turning point?

Why did they change?

What is their end goal?

How come they cannot see the danger in what they are supporting?
Lets assume everything you just said was true....... none of it matters if you vote republican as, by your own admission, they do the same thing. So by your own argument, Dems are the lesser of 2 evils.
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Old 12-03-2022, 10:13 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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The dem party is certainly not the party it was when I was a kid. It has been hijacked by radical far leftists. The "Weather Underground" types have consumed the party.
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Old 12-03-2022, 10:17 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Originally Posted by Stephan A Smith View Post
As a former Democrat and Liberal, I remember when Liberals were against certain things.

Liberals were against the Government using its agencies to spy on its citizens. That's why we had a major issue with Bush.

Liberals were against the Government using its agencies to go after its political opponents.

Liberals were against the Government trying to control the news flow and the flow of information.

Liberals were against the Government using its power to try to control what people can and cannot say or hear.

Why has the left abandoned what they once stood for?

Why is the left now supporting and/or defending the very things they once stood against?

When was the turning point?

Why did they change?

What is their end goal?

How come they cannot see the danger in what they are supporting?
You'll have to give examples of the bolded. I don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 12-03-2022, 10:18 AM
 
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Remember when Conservatives were against certain things.

Conservatives were against being sore losers after election losses, yet look how they acted after Trump lost.

Conservatives were against Big Government, funny how that worked out in relation to Abortion.

Conservatives were against Government legislation being used against schools, look what's happening now.

Conservatives were against the Government using its agencies to go after its political opponents, now they're going after Hunter the same way.

Conservatives were against people being fired due to having no Covid-19 vaccines, now look how much their celebrating people being fired in school boards and elsewhere.

Conservatives were against censorship such as when several controversial Dr. Seuss books were taken out of print, now there's thousands of book banning's due to Conservatives.

Conservatives were against the Government using its power to try to control what people can and cannot say or hear. yet look what happened with the CEO of Disney this year

Conservatives were against Liberals not standing with Israel, now you have conservatives just fine with Trump having dinner with anti-Semitics Ye and Nick Fuentes.

Why has the right abandoned what they once stood for?

Why is the right now supporting and/or defending the very things they once stood against?

When was the turning point?

Why did they change?

What is their end goal?

How come they cannot see the danger in what they are supporting?
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Old 12-03-2022, 10:27 AM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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You'll have to give examples of the bolded. I don't know what you're talking about.
Read their comments here.

Liberals supporting government control over information, news and speech via threat of government action if you do not comply with their demands
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Old 12-03-2022, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Remember when Conservatives were against certain things.

Conservatives were against being sore losers after election losses, yet look how they acted after Trump lost.

Conservatives were against Big Government, funny how that worked out in relation to Abortion.

Conservatives were against Government legislation being used against schools, look what's happening now.

Conservatives were against the Government using its agencies to go after its political opponents, now they're going after Hunter the same way.

Conservatives were against people being fired due to having no Covid-19 vaccines, now look how much their celebrating people being fired in school boards and elsewhere.

Conservatives were against censorship such as when several controversial Dr. Seuss books were taken out of print, now there's thousands of book banning's due to Conservatives.

Conservatives were against the Government using its power to try to control what people can and cannot say or hear. Now look what happened with the CEO of Disney this year

Conservatives were against Liberals not standing with Israel, now you have conservatives just fine with Trump having dinner with anti-Semitics Ye and Nick Fuentes.

Why has the right abandoned what they once stood for?

Why is the right now supporting and/or defending the very things they once stood against?

When was the turning point?

Why did they change?

What is their end goal?

How come they cannot see the danger in what they are supporting?
hahahaha What a garbage post.

Abortion is about states having the power like the founders envisioned.
Parents are the ones who make the call at schools not bought and paid for administrators.
They are going after Hunter because he and his father are crooked lowlife scumbags who broke the law.
It's about which books are for the eyes of minors. I get you love to see porn around kids. Despicable.
It's about free speech and not forcing garbage down our throats. You have no idea what happened and why to the CEO of Disney.
Show proof conservatives are fine with Trump having dinner with anti-Semitics Ye and Nick Fuentes. You can't so you won't. We didn't like it just like when Obama gave Nation of Racist leader Farrakhan and audience.

Conservatives have abandoned anything. Why have you abandoned the truth?

The end goal is local power. That you make things up and refuse to see it is on you.

Can't wait for another fake drama diatribe.
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