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Old 12-07-2022, 03:25 PM
 
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I suppose if my religion believed in human sacrifice the restaurant would have no right to exclude me merely on the basis of my wanting to murder their children.
I’ll bite on the ridiculous comparison (although I shouldn’t). Correct, as long as you are not acting on those beliefs nor causing trouble for the restaurant. I bet you have eaten at a restaurant where employees did not agree with everything you believe. Should they have been able to deny you service? Besides it being against the law, do we want to go there as a society? It would crumble.

 
Old 12-07-2022, 03:26 PM
 
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golly. i wonder what would happen if a restaurant refused to serve, say, gay people - citing the same reason?

of course the comPost files this in the Food section.
As someone who believes in businesses being allowed to serve whoever they want, more power to them. Can't have it both ways. Cake maker shouldn't have to make cakes for homosexual "weddings", flower store shouldn't have to make bouquets for it either and a website designer shouldn't have to design a website for them. Same goes here.
 
Old 12-07-2022, 03:26 PM
 
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thank god we have you to define normal for us.
I didn’t. Nature did. Yes or no. Does the human species need male - female relations to survive. Are heterosexual relations central to our very existence? That’s an easy answer.
 
Old 12-07-2022, 03:28 PM
 
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thank god we have you to define normal for us.
We probably should be more appreciative.
 
Old 12-07-2022, 03:28 PM
 
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Exactly. I think it was silly to refuse to bake a wedding cake. But this is even worse, this is seeing a customer approach the door, you googled them real quick, found out they were gay, slammed the door in their face and told them they were not welcome inside because - gay.
Right. This would be just as wrong and I would not support a restaurant for doing so. This is different than asking a baker to bake a suggesting cake in support of lgbt. This is different than Christians eating at hooters and giving the waitresses a hard time for their clothing.
 
Old 12-07-2022, 03:30 PM
 
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No they aren’t. Homosexuality is not normal.
Homosexuality is commonplace in nature. Just because you stopped learning in middle school doesn't mean something isn't true.
 
Old 12-07-2022, 03:31 PM
 
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As someone who believes in businesses being allowed to serve whoever they want, more power to them. Can't have it both ways. Cake maker shouldn't have to make cakes for homosexual "weddings", flower store shouldn't have to make bouquets for it either and a website designer shouldn't have to design a website for them. Same goes here.
Why do you not see the difference? The baker should not be allowed to deny a general cupcake to a gay person but they have the right to not make a suggestive cake. The restaurant does not have the right to deny service to someone for their beliefs, but if those customers are giving staff a hard time for their beliefs then the restaurant has the right to kick them out.

I bet you have eaten in places where ownership or employees don’t see eye to eye with all of your beliefs. Should they have been able to kick you out?
 
Old 12-07-2022, 03:32 PM
 
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I’ll bite on the ridiculous comparison (although I shouldn’t). Correct, as long as you are not acting on those beliefs nor causing trouble for the restaurant. I bet you have eaten at a restaurant where employees did not agree with everything you believe. Should they have been able to deny you service? Besides it being against the law, do we want to go there as a society? It would crumble.
That's not really analogous to this case. If the restaurant was called "Women with Ectopic Pregnancies Should Just Die" and I were a woman in need of a life-saving abortion then yeah I probably would skip it.
 
Old 12-07-2022, 03:33 PM
 
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Wrong. Your "conduct" exception would swallow the rule. Imagine going to court to defend a restaurant that says it's happy to serve black customers as long as they recognize some political proposition such as "The 13th Amendment should be repealed". Or that they will serve gay customers but not gay customers who support same-sex "marriage". That won't cut it under existing law.
Yes, because CONDUCT. I'm white. Am I asked that question and only served if I proclaim that all blacks should be slaves? If the answer is yes, it's fine. On the other hand if only black customers are required to state they think blacks should be enslaved and even when they answer yes the restaurant responds with we don't believe you mean it so we're not going to serve you as we think you're lying... well, conduct speaks for what the true motivation is.
 
Old 12-07-2022, 03:34 PM
 
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Homosexuality is commonplace in nature. Just because you stopped learning in middle school doesn't mean something isn't true.
Nice insult. But you have a strawman argument. Besides sexual orientation is a social construct. It’s a choice for most people. You side now admits to this. Puts iPhone in a tough spot doesn’t it? No gay gene, no trans gene, choice. Hey, and I don’t care what others chose to do with their lives. I could care less what they do in the bedroom. I have gay friends. But let’s not muddy the waters with bs about happens in nature. That argument is meaningless. Without heterosexual relations, that species dies.

But let’s focus on this thread. If you have ever eaten at a restaurant, you have eaten at a place where not all employees agreed with you on something. I guess they should have been able to kick you out. According to you logic and others supporting the restaurant, anytime a staff member disagrees with a patron they should be able to kick them out.
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