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Old 12-08-2022, 06:16 PM
 
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You are taking no risk, the patient is taking the risk. It should be up to them.
Correct on the risk. Everything in medicine has risk. So it is in the patient's best medical interest to follow the proper medical advise, as their risk is especially high. Also almost all renal transplant patients are on dialysis, and almost all dialysis centers require the Covid vaccines.

 
Old 12-08-2022, 06:19 PM
 
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Correct on the risk. Everything in medicine has risk. So it is in the patient's best medical interest to follow the proper medical advise, as their risk is especially high. Also almost all renal transplant patients are on dialysis, and almost all dialysis centers require the Covid vaccines.
What about the fact that 250,000 people die each year from medical mistakes in the US? And you expect parents of a child to trust you.
 
Old 12-08-2022, 06:23 PM
 
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What about the fact that 250,000 people die each year from medical mistakes in the US? And you expect parents of a child to trust you.
This has been discussed in the past almost ad nauseum. If you do your due diligence with online research, you will find this nonsense to be refuted by many experts and other reputable medical entities.
 
Old 12-08-2022, 06:29 PM
 
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Study Suggests Medical Errors Now Third Leading Cause of ...https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org › media › releases › s...
May 3, 2016 — ... Johns Hopkins patient safety experts have calculated that more than 250000 deaths per year are due to medical error in the U.S.
 
Old 12-08-2022, 07:05 PM
 
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Correct on the risk. Everything in medicine has risk. So it is in the patient's best medical interest to follow the proper medical advise, as their risk is especially high. Also almost all renal transplant patients are on dialysis, and almost all dialysis centers require the Covid vaccines.
If the COVID vaccine is in the best interest of the patient then why don't ALL centers require it?

When did "Proper Medical Advice" become "Proper Medical Threats"?

Advice makes sense when there is logic and data behind it, such as other lifestyle changes(No Smoking, diet...etc). These vaccines have been pushed on people, with what we know is that it doesn't keep someone from getting or transmitting COVID. We have anecdotal evidence it keeps the symptoms minimized, but since this same Medical Profession pushed the vaccines, they have all but destroyed any comparison groups to see the true benefit.
 
Old 12-08-2022, 07:13 PM
 
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And if tge childs dies because they refused to do the transplant, then the hospital should be sued for failure to carry out their own oath. (TO DO NO HARM)
 
Old 12-08-2022, 07:14 PM
 
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They do make you be up to date on whatever the schedule might be. Pretty crazy if you ask me. Those poor people’s bodies are sick enough already.
 
Old 12-08-2022, 07:17 PM
 
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If the COVID vaccine is in the best interest of the patient then why don't ALL centers require it?

When did "Proper Medical Advice" become "Proper Medical Threats"?

Advice makes sense when there is logic and data behind it, such as other lifestyle changes(No Smoking, diet...etc). These vaccines have been pushed on people, with what we know is that it doesn't keep someone from getting or transmitting COVID. We have anecdotal evidence it keeps the symptoms minimized, but since this same Medical Profession pushed the vaccines, they have all but destroyed any comparison groups to see the true benefit.
I know of none, but there may be exclusive/private centers that do not have the requirement.
Almost all high risk patients understand the need.
 
Old 12-08-2022, 07:20 PM
 
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"I topped out in 10th grade biology while you spent more that a decade post undergrad studying medicine, immunology, and physiology. Our opinions hold equal weight."
Conspiracy theorists often become more defiant when well-educated experts disagree with their theories. Something about academia, the government, and especially the "liberal elite," - they're all part of the "deep state."

As for this poor child, she will pay a heavy price for her parents' ignorance and embrace of misinformation. Very sorry for her.
 
Old 12-08-2022, 07:22 PM
 
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Study Suggests Medical Errors Now Third Leading Cause of ...https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org › media › releases › s...
May 3, 2016 — ... Johns Hopkins patient safety experts have calculated that more than 250000 deaths per year are due to medical error in the U.S.
That is where the nonsense was originally published. You need to look further for direct analyses and rebuttals.
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