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Old 12-09-2022, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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and I get that... if the senate was truly 50-50

but raw numbers (not who you SAY you will caucus with) currently have the senate at 48D..50 R..and 2I ...by those raw numbers...the R's have the majority

now of course the 2022 elections changed that, so it is actually tied at 49/49/2
At the end of the day Raw #'s, or the party you consider yourself (again since many states do not register by party), doesn't mean anything as far as Balance of Power, who has the Majority or who controls Committees. It is how you Caucus.
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Old 12-09-2022, 11:01 AM
 
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and I get that... if the senate was truly 50-50

but raw numbers (not who you SAY you will caucus with) currently have the senate at 48D..50 R..and 2I ...by those raw numbers...the R's have the majority

now of course the 2022 elections changed that, so it is actually tied at 49/49/2
Not sure why you are having such difficulty in understanding that it is who each senator caucuses with that determines the numbers. The Independents hold committee positions that they could not if they were caucusing with the Republicans. If they switch sides they lose those appointments.

It's actually pretty straightforward. Independents to Democrats: "We're with you guys." Thus, the majority.

What you should be asking is, why do no Independents ever caucus with the Republicans.

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Old 12-09-2022, 11:19 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Yes. I'll bet women will be "beheaded" in the USA soon.



This nonsensical demagoguery is probably why republicans control most of the levers of government now.
Repubs don't understand sarcasm. Got it. I notice, however, that you didn't comment on the slashing of the federal budget. Your silence is telling.

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Old 12-09-2022, 11:27 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Not sure what Disney has to do with it, but you seem to be saying we can now look forward to Right-wing extremism. More legislative control over uppity women and childbirth issues, perhaps Sharia law--beheading women who cross state lines to obtain abortions, beheading of doctors who perform sex-change procedures, a return to death penalties and chain gangs for non-Euro-descended citizens on phony charges, and last, but by no means least: increased slashing of the federal budget to fund ever more tax breaks for people who don't need them, promoted in the Orwellian tradition as "balancing the budget".

Oh, happy day.
Wow! What a ridiculous post. So extreme and dramatic and not rooted in sanity in any way.

So because Republicans won the house, Disney has seen it's stock crater due to woke policies and reversed course, and Twitter is now balanced and no longer suppressing conservative views, that is right-wing extremism in your view? Beheading women??? Really?

I should point out that Sharia Law is Muslim Law... what party do all the Muslim politicians in the USA belong to? Democrat Party. So if any party would be pushing for Sharia Law in the USA, it's def not the Republican party.
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Old 12-09-2022, 11:43 AM
 
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Repubs don't understand sarcasm. Got it. I notice, however, that you didn't comment on the slashing of the federal budget. Your silence is telling.

The way that the federal budget has ballooned in recent years, it could use a whole lot more slashing to reduce our deficit spending.
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Old 12-09-2022, 12:08 PM
 
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Repubs don't understand sarcasm. Got it. I notice, however, that you didn't comment on the slashing of the federal budget. Your silence is telling.

Telling of what? That would be FANTASTIC if the federal budget was slashed.

You just made my point of democrats preferring a big handout, nanny state.
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Old 12-09-2022, 12:25 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Likely correct. But it doesn't change the accuracy of my post.

There are more republicans in the senate than democrats.
We dont have party registration on a federal level, we have caucuses.

so the actual make up is 50- 49 -1

calling yourself a D or R officially means nothing.
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Old 12-09-2022, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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So who controls the Senate now? GOP with a plurality, or whoever can get the Independents, which would be the Democrats.

Since the GOP outnumbers the Democrats, does this mean they control all of the Senate Committees, or are Committee chairs elected by majority vote?

At 65 years old, you would think I would know this by now.
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Old 12-09-2022, 02:42 PM
 
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recessions come from liberal policies....
BS

Clinton's economy was going great guns. Bush ran it into the ground.

Obama got it up and running.Trump ran it into the ground.

Biden got it up and running.

The last Republican President to leave the nation in better economic condition that he found it was Eisenhower.
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Old 12-09-2022, 02:46 PM
 
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The reason Republican economic policies don't work is because of their bogus "trickle down" business, based on giving tax breaks to rich who supposedly will then increase the supply. The rich don't increase supply, of course. They use it for stock buybacks and CEO pay and so forth. Because even they know that a bunch of supply without demand is just ridiculous.

Economies grow when demand grows, not when supply grows.
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