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Old 12-09-2022, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Originally Posted by Igor Blevin View Post
The win in inflation and recession. Heads you win. Tails you win.

The caveat is that companies with large short term debt will get creamed in an new liquidity crisis. Zombie companies will get killed either way. They are basically fueled by free money. Companies with poor cash flow and no profit can't survive high borrowing costs.
so look at companies with a relatively high debt load, take their interest expense and multiply it by 5, and see what it does to their EBITDA-interest. Start with all the i-Buyers that are publicly-traded and the overvalued real estate companies, but I'm sure there are others as well. I am not an investment adviser, this is not investment advice but: Zillow, OpenDoor, Redfin, Knock, Acorn, Compass, eXp, etc etc etc.

What is the initial buffer for the economy at-large is the # of unfilled jobs.

It would be interesting to have a completely non-partisan economic model/assumption done to see how quickly they can take all the excess cash out without becoming an unemployment % > 6

oh, by the way - when does Biden's Climate & Energy law "minimum corporate tax" go into effect? for calendar '22 or not until next year?
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Right. The Covid lockdowns cost the US about about $10 trillion, or $30,000 per person.
ummm...where? links?

The GDP hit wound up being <$400B, the spending was ~$2T + ~600B + ~$2T. That's about $5T, which don't get me wrong - nothing to sneeze and say "oh well"
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:42 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Blackrock is part of the problem.

But they are not wrong here.
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Old 12-09-2022, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
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Of course the mention of God triggers you.
Ha! Now that is rich. It is tantamount to flashing light headgear screaming moron coming. Take notice
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Old 12-09-2022, 06:19 PM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 5 days ago)
 
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I don't trust Blackrock AT ALL, and think they are a force for destruction.

Don't know exactly what their motives are for trying to scare us all to death with this ridiculous prophecy, but I wish they'd just fall off a cliff.

They are making it nearly impossible for young couples to participate in the American dream in Dallas, and other cities, by buying up all the properties for rent houses.

Pound sand, Blackrock.
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Old 12-09-2022, 07:26 PM
 
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Blackrock has an agenda, so why would anyone listen to them?
Very true. The treasurer of NC is calling on Fink to resign, or he will pull the pension funds they have with them. Florida is doing the same thing.

You literally cannot trust Blackrock to maintain any type of fiduciary independence, not when there is an ESG agenda to drive.
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Old 12-09-2022, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Pilot Point, TX
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I've got options on SH, Marathon Oil and Uranium Energy.

I've got nothing invested in company retirement choices.
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Old 12-09-2022, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I don't trust Blackrock AT ALL, and think they are a force for destruction.

Don't know exactly what their motives are for trying to scare us all to death with this ridiculous prophecy, but I wish they'd just fall off a cliff.

They are making it nearly impossible for young couples to participate in the American dream in Dallas, and other cities, by buying up all the properties for rent houses.

Pound sand, Blackrock.
Hey! We agree again, especially on the "Pound sand, Blackrock" part.

They have also invested in the destruction of trees, and have joined other false "teachers" who tell everyone that we need to switch to "bio-fuel", which is: destroying trees by the boatloads.

They are liars, greedy, and evil.
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Old 12-09-2022, 08:37 PM
 
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Given Zero Hedge is not known for their skills in analzying the economic analysis...here's another link that might give more insight.

https://fortune.com/2022/12/09/how-b...ment-playbook/

Year-over-year inflation, as measured by the consumer price index (CPI), likely peaked in June at 9.1%. And some CEOs and money managers argue that it’s set to come down fast.


Does anybody want to know the definition of foretold?

It means predicted -- it does not mean 'like no other'.

When they talked about a market like no other -- they were referring to the stock market.

Reading comprehension is important.
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Old 12-09-2022, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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It's coming. I don't know how bad it will be but I know that it's coming.

Blackrock predicts it will be bad.

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...-wont-work-now


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"Recession is foretold as central banks race to try to tame inflation. It's the opposite of past recessions," the team wrote In their 2023 Global Outlook (embedded below), which says that the global economy has already exited a four-decade period of stable growth and inflation, and has now entered a period of heightened instability.

And when things get bad, "Central bankers won't ride to the rescue when growth slows in this new regime, contrary to what investors have come to expect. Equity valuations don't yet reflect the damage ahead."

"What worked in the past won't work now," said the strategists. "The old playbook of simply 'buying the dip' doesn't apply in this regime of sharper trade-offs and greater macro volatility. We don't see a return to conditions that will sustain a joint bull market in stocks and bonds of the kind we experienced in the prior decade."

So what can actually tame inflation? A deep recession, according to the report
"
Nice of them to tell us what they're planning to do. Blackrock, #1 in the ethics department.
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