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Old 12-11-2022, 05:26 AM
 
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Marc Fogel is a white male teacher with several medically documented surgeries and health conditions that cause him severe pain.

He traveled into Russia with half an ounce of medical Marijuana along with a prescription note detailing his medical condition.

Russia sentenced him to 14 years in jail and this was 6 months BEFORE Griner was arrested. The mainstream propaganda media barely noticed and didn't care.

Half a year later when Griner, a black lesbian woman, did a similar thing the left and mainstream propaganda media start screaming that Griner's should be above the laws of the country that she traveled into - and that is the definition of privilege.

The left and the mainstream propaganda media told us it was worth releasing the "merchant of death" to get Griner out early while Fogel, the white male arrested first, rots away.

Obama said the world was a safer place when Viktor Bout was arrested on his watch as he was responsible for deaths and oppression on multiple continents. The Pentagon is now saying Bout likely returns to knowingly arming terrorists that have been murdering for years.

Bout armed the Taliban and terrorists in Africa and the Middle East. With Bout free, per the Pentagon it likely means more dead and oppressed black Africans.

Do African black lives matter?

No, they're poor and because Griner has rich American privilege they're expendable. Fogel is just a common white man, he has no privilege. The left will not demand we release terrorists for Fogel even though he got arrested first and has a better case.


https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...riner-00073363

 
Old 12-11-2022, 06:11 AM
 
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Like many things the left whines about, there was a time when white privilege was actually a thing. Those of us who have been paying attention for the last 40 years so realize that white privileged has gradually been eradicated. Whiners are attention whores, so when they find something that works, they stick with it, even when its no longer relevant. Another example is the "war on women". Not that there was ever actually a "war", but women were suppressed for a long time. Women have been the most coddled demographic for several generations, yet there are those who still go to marches wearing ridiculous hats and complaining about their plight in life. Whiners gonna whine.
 
Old 12-11-2022, 08:50 AM
 
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Russia didn't offer to trade for Fogel. He was never part of any potential deal, because he's not a celebrity and the Russians couldn't use him for publicity. No one ever heard of him.
 
Old 12-11-2022, 08:52 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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The fact that she is an elite athlete played a significant role in granting her publicity and getting her released. The other identity stuff seems mostly irrelevant in this case; just details that haters like to trumpet. For the Dems though, the details are useful for selling their agenda.
 
Old 12-11-2022, 09:05 AM
 
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Russia didn't offer to trade for Fogel. He was never part of any potential deal, because he's not a celebrity and the Russians couldn't use him for publicity. No one ever heard of him.
Griner isn't a "celebrity" either.

2% of the population had heard of her before this.

0.5% of the population even knows there is such a thing as "Women's professional basketball."

It's a silly concept that no one even watches and the NBA takes a loss on every year.
 
Old 12-11-2022, 09:07 AM
 
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Russia didn't offer to trade for Fogel. He was never part of any potential deal, because he's not a celebrity and the Russians couldn't use him for publicity. No one ever heard of him.
So Biden just took whatever the Russians offered on their terms.

He couldn't change the terms or implement what HE wanted?

We traded a terrorist for a nobody just because "That's all Russia would go for???"

We had the leverage, not them.
 
Old 12-11-2022, 09:14 AM
 
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Russia didn't offer to trade for Fogel. He was never part of any potential deal, because he's not a celebrity and the Russians couldn't use him for publicity. No one ever heard of him.
There was no big push by anyone to free Fogel.

There were plenty of media sources pointing out that Griner had intersectionality by being a black woman lesbian. By making her an extra victim than Fogel, she had privilege.

Griner's identity gave her a privilege that allowed her to get freed by risking the merchant of death being freed to cause more black deaths and oppression in Africa.

No one, no one, is saying risk more terrorists killing Africans for Fogel. But you get slammed as a racist if you point out the potential consequences of freeing someone who the Obama Administration said was a danger to the world just a decade ago.



https://www.blackcatholicmessenger.c...rsectionality/

https://thegrio.com/2022/03/08/britt...tained-russia/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaunha...must-continue/

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...in/7820359001/

https://now.org/media-center/press-r...ittney-griner/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/...home-rcna36876

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2022...-go-from-here/
 
Old 12-11-2022, 11:40 AM
 
Location: The 719
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Marc Fogel is a white male teacher with several medically documented surgeries and health conditions that cause him severe pain.

He traveled into Russia with half an ounce of medical Marijuana along with a prescription note detailing his medical condition.

Russia sentenced him to 14 years in jail and this was 6 months BEFORE Griner was arrested. The mainstream propaganda media barely noticed and didn't care.

Half a year later when Griner, a black lesbian woman, did a similar thing the left and mainstream propaganda media start screaming that Griner's should be above the laws of the country that she traveled into - and that is the definition of privilege.

The left and the mainstream propaganda media told us it was worth releasing the "merchant of death" to get Griner out early while Fogel, the white male arrested first, rots away.

Obama said the world was a safer place when Viktor Bout was arrested on his watch as he was responsible for deaths and oppression on multiple continents. The Pentagon is now saying Bout likely returns to knowingly arming terrorists that have been murdering for years.

Bout armed the Taliban and terrorists in Africa and the Middle East. With Bout free, per the Pentagon it likely means more dead and oppressed black Africans.

Do African black lives matter?

No, they're poor and because Griner has rich American privilege they're expendable. Fogel is just a common white man, he has no privilege. The left will not demand we release terrorists for Fogel even though he got arrested first and has a better case.


https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...riner-00073363
It doesn't matter what her/they color is, her political affiliation is, sexual preference, is, etc. She is a popular celebrity, and that gave Putin a better bargaining tool to suade a sniffer in chief with.

End of thread.

That the guy is a white male is incidental, at least as far as perception is concerned.

We lost the midterms. Do you get that?

We are the losers. We lost the war of perception.

Good morning, fellow loser. Have a nice rest of the day. Oh, don't forget to go back to work next week and pay your taxes, white racist male be damned.
 
Old 12-11-2022, 12:03 PM
 
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How is it racist to point out that what Fogel did was less egregious than Griner and 6 months prior, yet zero libs are calling to help terrorists to get Fogel out.

Griner has privilege that Fogel does not have.
As I pointed out in a thread yesterday, Griner, a Black, female, lesbian checks all the boxes that matter to Biden and the Dems. Fogel, a white male doesn't check any of the boxes. It's OK in this country to discriminate against white males. In fact, it's now standard practice. Being Black and female is definitely the advantageous class in our country today. Being lesbian is simply additional bonus points.

You might also look at the White House Press Secretary and wonder how someone with so little knowledge and talent ever got that prestigious job. Look a bit closer and your puzzlement will be answered.
 
Old 12-11-2022, 04:24 PM
 
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if grinder had a penis, she would got out nine months ago


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