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Old 01-08-2023, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I agree, the use of the term atmospheric river is out of hand. Same with bomb cyclone. This is a result of social media and the ever pressing desire for clicks. Man I hate today’s media!

The English language has been bastardized for a long time. Plain English went out long, long ago for either PC or flowery language. It is much easier for the ignorant to pass off as intelligent if they use confusing or imprecise language.

Stupid people who are forced to speak clearly are more readily exposed.

I hate gobblety goop English. Lawyers, managers, and politicians just love it. "Uh - whuddy say?

Somewhere during my 35 year enginering career, we went from plain English to adopting all manner of idiotic business-speak. I theink it started with the book "The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People," and got progressively worse every time some idiot wrote a new book proclaming a new "paradigm shift" in the workplace.

Next thing you know, we were no longer improving our process, but were "implementing the core process tenets of beta six sigma to enhance procedural outcomes toward positive performance goals in conformance with desired deadlines."
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Old 01-08-2023, 06:12 PM
 
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I agree, the use of the term atmospheric river is out of hand. Same with bomb cyclone. This is a result of social media and the ever pressing desire for clicks. Man I hate today’s media!
I disagree. AR is useful and quite descriptive if you follow eastern Pacific/West coast satellite images as I have since the '90's in relation to skiing. They are not so common.

e.g. A Pineapple express satellite image loop looks like a moving river on satellite imagery. A typical AR carries with it many multiples of the Mississippi River's volume.
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Old 01-08-2023, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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We need slow rain/snow to fill the underground aquifers.
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Old 01-08-2023, 07:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Climate Change: Another ATMOSPHERIC RIVER is here, and CA snowpack is 174% of normal, the highest in decades.

Thankfully, we survived the BOMB CYCLONE last week and now we have yet another ATMOSPHERIC RIVER, dumping much needed rain and more snow.
Is this new "Atmospheric River" term like the descriptor "Bomb Cyclone"? Both invented to take a fairly mundane term like "winter storm" and make it sound much more exciting and dreadful, when in fact it's neither, and not particularly huge compared to normal winter storms?
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Old 01-08-2023, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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....pineapple express
… is the name of a specific atmospheric river.

https://www.noaa.gov/stories/what-ar...spheric-rivers
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Old 01-08-2023, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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merely stating the talking points we are regularly fed. if we cause the climate to change, why is it one way? why can’t we just turn the big thermostat in the sky down? well scientists want to dim the sun. makes sense
Anthropogenic "Climate Change" is a hoax.
Of course, the knee jerk slur "Climate denier" omits the anthropogenic preface.
Climate always changes... some cycles are thousands of years in length.

Climate is what you expect - weather is what you get.
Blaming every anomaly on "AGCC" is a scam.

Someone is going to get very very rich selling "carbon credits" and charging "carbon taxes".
Karbonites have a new religion in the Church of the Warming Planet.

The irony is that there is no such thing as a "greenhouse effect" - even in a greenhouse.
All a glazed house does is prevent convection of the enclosed air with ambient air. A hollow steel box left in the sun will also HEAT UP - without any "trapping of sunlight."

Oh, and the "heat trapping atmosphere" dumps 30% of the sun's energy.
(Solar input above the atmosphere is 1300 W/m2; at the equator at noon, it's only 1000 W/m2. How does a "heat trapping atmosphere" keep us cooler? D'Oh.)
And you can be sure any "reputable" climate scientist is well funded to agree with AGCC. He'd be stupid to disagree.

One might wonder why no one had the foresight to capture excessive water ? Or bothered to terrace the mountains known for mudslides ? (See Machu Picchu for inspiration)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machu_Picchu
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Old 01-08-2023, 07:48 PM
 
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Now you guys have water. This is a good thing.
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Old 01-08-2023, 08:14 PM
 
Location: NJ
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If you're smart you won't be welcoming it quite so much, rather you should be praying for it to ease up by at least half and to be stretched out over a long time.

Yes you need rain and snow but not when you get too much of it in such a short window of time. It needs to be delivered gradually over the course of several weeks to even several months, not all dumped within one month so any possible benefits of it won't last and much terrible damage and loss of lives may be done.

Are you aware of what all the extreme consequences and destruction to the land itself and to human infrastructures will be now that the land is being "dumped" on? Are you prepared to deal with them?

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Prayer will be far more effective than the government's claim it can reverse climate change by legislation.
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Old 01-08-2023, 08:44 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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So many climate "experts" in here. Looks like we have it covered; no need to consult people who actually study this for a living.
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Old 01-08-2023, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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So many climate "experts" in here. Looks like we have it covered; no need to consult people who actually study this for a living.
Correct. Because the "experts" have plenty of conflicts of interest. In short...as long as the money keeps flowing, they will keep saying what their bosses want them to say.
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