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Old 03-18-2023, 02:10 PM
 
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Revenue intake, has historically increased DRAMATICALLY under republican presidents.
Historically, revenue always goes up. No more dramatically during republican presidents than democratic ones. For example, revenues doubled during Clinton's term, vs 1.5x during Reagan's. I could show you the data, but it's a moot point. The President does not determine how much revenue is brought in, but you know that.
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Old 03-18-2023, 02:12 PM
 
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Just order every agency to cut their budget by 10%
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Old 03-18-2023, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Just order every agency to cut their budget by 10%
Can't make it any more simple and fair than that...I vote YES
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Old 03-18-2023, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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How do you come to the conclusion that government is the number one cause of poverty? If you take away the benefits the poor currently receive do you think they will magically become not poor?
If they are of able body, and sound mind, they'll get a job.

If they are not, I'm all for helping them out.

I also say we audit everyone only SS Disability at least annually. I know a few people on it that could work in most jobs, just not manual labor jobs.
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Old 03-18-2023, 02:35 PM
 
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If they are of able body, and sound mind, they'll get a job.

If they are not, I'm all for helping them out.

I also say we audit everyone only SS Disability at least annually. I know a few people on it that could work in most jobs, just not manual labor jobs.
We don't need a massive, bloated bureaucracy staffed by overpaid paper pushers to help out disabled people.
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Old 03-18-2023, 03:03 PM
 
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If they are of able body, and sound mind, they'll get a job.

If they are not, I'm all for helping them out.

I also say we audit everyone only SS Disability at least annually. I know a few people on it that could work in most jobs, just not manual labor jobs.
Something like 80% of the households on welfare(mostly SNAP) in the US have someone working at a job. Not all jobs pay enough to live on.
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Old 03-18-2023, 03:04 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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People in the higher brackets got the same cuts as everyone else in the lower brackets. The brackets are marginal rates, not the rate on all income. That means that the million dollar earner got the same tax cuts as the lower earners, plus the cut on the to brackets. You are trying to make it sound like the millionaire pays 37% on their entire income, which is not the case at all.
Nope. It doesn't work that way. The much smaller tax cuts those in the higher tax brackets got are why the top income earners paid a HIGHER percentage of the total Individual Federal Income Tax revenue after the Trump tax cuts than they did before.
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Old 03-18-2023, 03:04 PM
 
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We don't need a massive, bloated bureaucracy staffed by overpaid paper pushers to help out disabled people.
Where do you suggest they get help, then?
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Old 03-18-2023, 03:06 PM
 
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Where do you suggest they get help, then?
I already told you.

You have two hands. You have a checkbook. You have a pen. Start writing.
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Old 03-18-2023, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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Historically, revenue always goes up. No more dramatically during republican presidents than democratic ones. For example, revenues doubled during Clinton's term, vs 1.5x during Reagan's. I could show you the data, but it's a moot point. The President does not determine how much revenue is brought in, but you know that.

no your could not cuz its false.


whereas when the population increases and all the numbers go up sure, yearly receitps go up. but under reagan #1 and bush (w) #2 the actual dollars the IRS collect went up.


and here we go back to 'cuz trump'. While the president does nto spend tax dollars the fact remains, top tax brackets were cut under the budget pushed by the president at the time. Again, we refer back to reagan. some of us lived it. As adults.
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