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Yes, it is the solution. And no, it hasn't been the policy.
Yes it has been the policy for at least 20 years. Armed guards, lacked doors, active shooter drills, and all of that has done absolutely nothing to stop the problem. That policy is a 100% failure and a waste of money.
Or maybe we need to turn back the clock to those times. If kids could go to school safely in the 1950s without armed guards, then they can go to school safely today without armed guards. We just need to make it happen.
Back to the 1950s where things were great if you were white and male.......but not so great if you weren't?
That does not seem like a good approach to get away from the unrest in society.
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Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz
Yes it has been the policy for at least 20 years. Armed guards, lacked doors, active shooter drills, and all of that has done absolutely nothing to stop the problem. That policy is a 100% failure and a waste of money.
It is difficult to say "has done absolutely nothing to stop the problem" for we are not mystics, we cannot view the alternate paths of time of what might have happened. Like Murdoch on the Titanic, had he not have swerved but rammed the ice berg, so many hundreds would not have died......and there wouldn't be an admiralty court that wouldn't have crucified him for failure to take the proper action and killed those people crushed in the bow from such a ramming.
Same thing here. We don't know if our efforts have been a total failure. It is possible that other attacks have been dissuaded but as said, we don't know, at least those of us down here in the trenches.
Yes it has been the policy for at least 20 years. Armed guards, lacked doors, active shooter drills, and all of that has done absolutely nothing to stop the problem. That policy is a 100% failure and a waste of money.
Not a total failure, the body count could have been much higher if we had not learned and adapted from previous incidents.
Being realistic, how? You aren't disarming the populace so how.
Thank you for acknowledging what the real problem is. Whatever your beliefs are everybody knows what the real problem is. We are just not ready to tackle that problem yet. But it will have to be tackled at some point. Probably after we waste billions of dollars in a futile attempt to "harden" schools.
Not a total failure, the body count could have been much higher if we had not learned and adapted from previous incidents.
Nonsense, Uvalde, Texas was the third highest death toll in a school shooting. The numbers of school shootings just keeps going up, and the death tolls just keep going up. It's a 100% failure. The only reason the death toll wasn't higher in this case, was not because the cops did such a great job, but rather because the shooter wanted to commit suicide by cop and to kill cops, not kids. That is why she was shooting out the window at the cops, and not into classrooms. If she wanted to kill a lot of kids, she could have killed all the kids out on the playground without even going into the school. But that was not her goal.
Nonsense, Uvalde, Texas was the third highest death toll in a school shooting. The numbers of school shootings just keeps going up, and the death tolls just keep going up. It's a 100% failure. The only reason the death toll wasn't higher in this case, was not because the cops did such a great job, but rather because the shooter wanted to commit suicide by cop and to kill cops, not kids. That is why she was shooting out the window at the cops, and not into classrooms. If she wanted to kill a lot of kids, she could have killed all the kids out on the playground without even going into the school. But that was not her goal.
And we learned from Parkland and Ulvade. It wasn't one officer and listen to the bodycam footage from Covenant as all the officers keep yelling to each other to keep moving in order to boost their confidence. Because if they stopped as in Ulvade it takes a lot to get people to move again if they are facing fire, even if they are behind armor plates.
Not sure her actions back that up. What were those 3 kids she killed doing? were they about to rush her or something? Were they a threat to her?
She clearly didn't have a problem with killing kids, but that was not her goal. She walked right past a playground filled with kids, before she went into the school. But she didn't shoot any of them. That was not her goal. I think it has been pretty much established that this was a suicide by cop case. She wanted to commit suicide and this was the way she wanted to die.
She clearly didn't have a problem with killing kids, but that was not her goal. She walked right past a playground filled with kids, before she went into the school. But she didn't shoot any of them. That was not her goal. I think it has been pretty much established that this was a suicide by cop case. She wanted to commit suicide and this was the way she wanted to die.
I would say also wanted suicide. In the one person I know who did suicide by cop that he merely called 911 saying he shot his girlfriend and aimed a gun at the police who arrived.
She clearly didn't have a problem with killing kids, but that was not her goal. She walked right past a playground filled with kids, before she went into the school. But she didn't shoot any of them. That was not her goal. I think it has been pretty much established that this was a suicide by cop case. She wanted to commit suicide and this was the way she wanted to die.
Why didn't "she" just go to the cop shop and start shooting then? Other than that, she was on a hate mission.
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