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Old 05-10-2023, 10:04 AM
 
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Looking at the US Treasury's April 2023 statement (which includes the 2022 IFIT payment deadline), things aren't going well, at all...

Same US Treasury Statement, year over year, 2023 vs 2022 for the first 7 months of the fiscal year:

2022:
Individual Federal Income Tax Receipts: $1,718 billion
Total Outlays: $3,346 billion

https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/file...ts/mts0422.pdf

2023:
Individual Federal Income Tax Receipts: $1,410 billion
Total Outlays: $3,611 billion

https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/file...ts/mts0423.pdf

Individual Federal Income Tax receipts are DOWN 17.9%.
Total Outlays are UP 7.9%.

That is SHOCKING. Individual Federal Income Tax revenue DOWN 17.9% YOY. Even after the April 18th 2022 IFIT tax payment deadline.

Less IFIT revenue means people are earning LESS, even with Biden's supposed "12.6 million new jobs" (Biden's latest claim). Biden is a dud!

Wow. That's a HUGE fall off...
"things aren't going well, at all..."

And you are just finding this out?

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Old 05-10-2023, 10:06 AM
 
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That's some mighty fine cherry picking right there in the OP.

Go to page 7 of the second linked report. Note that April 2022 was an outlier for federal revenue. Also note that it was caused by stimulus payments, unemployment compensation, and SBC pandemic relief plans - AKA massive federal government spending in response to COVID.
"AKA massive federal government spending in response to COVID"

ONLY covid? get a life!

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Old 05-10-2023, 10:14 AM
 
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"Hey Fat, I passed the Erection Reduction Act......wait.....that doesn't sound right. Jackie, what was the name of that Act I passed. Is Jackie here? Someone said she was going to be here. Oh, right, I passed the Inflation Reduction Act. That's what I passed. You know when a Biden takes on inflation, it's going down. Like Corn Pop."

-- Joe Biden


Clearly, as is ALWAYS the case, the fed gov has a spending problem, and most of it starts with the military budget, medicare fraud, and a few other things. These idiots in DC don't understand budgeting, because they aren't spending their own money.
The biggest problem to me is, we are spending too much on things NOT in the Constitution.

Way too many dems seem to want Socialism.

Why do we spend BILLIONS on a Dept of Education, when it is NOT in the Constitution?

Why do we spend so much on infrastructure,etc., that is the responsibility of the STATES?

How may non federal libraries have we built?

Every gov't agency could be cut 25% with ZERO negative affect.

I works for both Dept. of Defense and civilian agencies and saw it EVERY DAY..

I could go on and on for quite a while with examples.
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Old 05-10-2023, 11:28 AM
 
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That's the Outlays part. Explain the 17.9% DROP in Individual Federal Income Tax revenue.
Give people lotsa money from the federal government in 2021, have them pay taxes on it in 2022.

Do you really not understand this?
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Old 05-10-2023, 11:29 AM
 
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Stimulus checks were issued in 2020 and 2021...none in 2022.
Pandemic unemployment benefits ended in 2021

None happened in 2022
Again, people pay taxes in April 2022 on earnings in 2021.
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Old 05-10-2023, 11:33 AM
 
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You and me both.

A 17.9% drop off in IFIT revenue in just one year is SIGNIFICANT. That's not just a "blip."
Who said it was a "blip"?

I said it was an outlier.
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Old 05-10-2023, 11:41 AM
 
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Give people lotsa money from the federal government in 2021, have them pay taxes on it in 2022.

Do you really not understand this?
But Biden said he created 12.6 million new jobs. HOW does that translate to a 17.9% DECREASE in Individual Federal Income Tax revenue? It would have to mean that NONE of the people working in those 12.6 million new jobs are paying any IFIT AND that everyone else is earning so much LESS that their IFIT liability collectively decreased by 17.9%.

That's HUGE.
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Old 05-10-2023, 11:58 AM
 
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All things lead to here IMO.

We can't pay our bills. Less people are working. Our GDP shrinks.

We are a superpower because of our production and consumption and reserve currency status.

So the way to defeat America is to shrink the economy and remove reverse currency status.
If we give unemployed more money, won’t that help them pay more taxes and solve this problem? think:
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Old 05-10-2023, 12:31 PM
 
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If we give unemployed more money, won’t that help them pay more taxes and solve this problem? think:
That's sarcasm, correct?

If not, that's just the Fed Gov spending more money they DON'T have.

Here's why...

"GIVE" an unemployed person an extra $20,000/year. They pay $2,000 in Federal Income Tax on that (highly unlikely, but let's pretend for now). The Fed Gov is still OUT an extra $18,000 per unemployed person in deficit spending.
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Old 05-10-2023, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Democrats here on City-Data tell me that we’re in this situation because the IRS doesn’t have enough agents to collect tax dollars, so that’s why the debt ceiling deal is “dangerous” for our country, since it rescinds some of that additional IRS funding. /shrug
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