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That's what I was thinking. Even if it's accurate, why should I care? A building is built with bricks laid the same way over and over... not rethinking every brick. Life and society is no different. You pick a path and you stick with. In that way, you have a chance of success... flipping with the wind guarantees failure.
Ahh... my sentiments PRECISELY! This explains why liberal society is always an amorphic, controversial place brimming with chaos....coughhhhCAhhhhh. And then it gets even worse when they tell the "brick layers" how to do their job or to tear down completed "buildings".
Look at the history of mankind... liberal thinking has never reigned supreme mainly because it cannot produce a progressive society.
Ahh... my sentiments PRECISELY! This explains why liberal society is always an amorphic, controversial place brimming with chaos....coughhhhCAhhhhh. And then it gets even worse when they tell the "brick layers" how to do their job or to tear down completed "buildings".
Look at the history of mankind... liberal thinking has never reigned supreme mainly because it cannot produce a progressive society.
Well, "conservatism" or shall I say "neoconservatism" has really led to a progressive society. I don't want to get off into a tangent because all one has to do is look at the state of the Union to see how far the past seven years have led to a progressive society. More like regressive.
Well, "conservatism" or shall I say "neoconservatism" has really led to a progressive society. I don't want to get off into a tangent because all one has to do is look at the state of the Union to see how far the past seven years have led to a progressive society. More like regressive.
Why in God's name would anyone want "progress" in the governmental sense? Isn't progress from capitalism... socialism?... and isn't that part of a progression towards more revolution... which means human suffering?
Government shouldn't progress... it should find a nice spot and relax while the citizens, without the force of government to coerce fellow citizens, make improvements in their life.
Why in God's name would anyone want "progress" in the governmental sense? Isn't progress from capitalism... socialism?... and isn't that part of a progression towards more revolution... which means human suffering?
Government shouldn't progress... it should find a nice spot and relax while the citizens, without the force of government to coerce fellow citizens, make improvements in their life.
Speaking of something akin to your comment, I am being coerced to contribute my taxes to fund a war, which is something I do not want. I have no say in it and this makes no improvements in anyone's life.
And speaking of human suffering, all one needs to do is to think of Iraq.
Why would someone want progress? To evolve into a more enlightened society and not be known a citizens of a rogue nation.
Government shouldn't progress... it should find a nice spot and relax while the citizens, without the force of government to coerce fellow citizens, make improvements in their life.
And, btw, you are just proving my point about liberals being more flexible. Conservatives want the status quo and to just kick back with zero change.
NOPE just thought Id make the thread more interesting.
oh wait,there are donation records from politicians
Yes, and those big donors just happen to be powerful business interests who are not exactly making donations out of the goodness of their hearts. They do expect a return on their investment.
Speaking of something akin to your comment, I am being coerced to contribute my taxes to fund a war, which is something I do not want. I have no say in it and this makes no improvements in anyone's life.
I can't argue with that. I think it sucks. However, government is formed first and foremost to wield violence. For better or worse, our government-- our representatives-- operated within the rules set up by us to wield that force in Iraq.
What can you do? Iraq was a fair play... and you were represented.
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Government shouldn't progress... it should find a nice spot and relax while the citizens, without the force of government to coerce fellow citizens, make improvements in their life.
And, btw, you are just proving my point about liberals being more flexible. Conservatives want the status quo and to just kick back with zero change.
Great! I wouldn't want you to get the impression that I'd consider Iran being nuclear nation without the sand they're living on being turned to radioactive glass.
However, being conservative is actually opposition to the status quo. By supporting a free-market, I am supporting the greatest proponent of change: the market. Liberals and their socialism actually uphold the status quo because the burden of working for the government/high taxes actually suppresses innovation because there's no reward in innovation... which keeps the status quo.
That's one of the inherent contradictions that chase smart people away from socialims/progressive(ism?)/liberalism... whatever you're calling yourself this week.
Interesting nonetheless. I've always noticed that a Liberals will attack anything, will cause conflict where there is none, and force their views down your throat. Conservatives take a much more laid back approach with an 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' attitude. But then again, most of those who call themselves "Liberal" are not Liberal at all, which further skews its true definition.
Republican politicians are always easy-going, make jokes, and are really some funny characters (politically and comically). Democrats always act uptight, and will attack anyone not conforming to their views - something I've observed from the very beginning.
For example, if you have a talk show - If a Democrat comes on to talk, they'll rant about such and such is wrong, we need to throw more money at it, etc.. Republicans, admittedly, beat around the bush so to speak but appear to be much more stable individuals who are not easily phased.
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