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Since the word "gender" has been hijacked, can we please just say that sports should be separated by SEX? We should be as specific as possible: sex at birth, XX vs XY, penis vs vagina, I don't care what you call it. Just separate by actual male vs female.
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We never see trans men competing against other real men
Since the word "gender" has been hijacked, can we please just say that sports should be separated by SEX? We should be as specific as possible: sex at birth, XX vs XY, penis vs vagina, I don't care what you call it. Just separate by actual male vs female.
Fine with me. I'd support that. You'd just have to get everyone else to support that.
If we have a female competition and a male competition, and specifically avoid the word 'woman', then that side steps the whole culture war aspect of the world of sports awkwardly having to wade into who is a woman and who isn't, and ignoring the whole point in the first place of why men and women's sports are separate.
I know people here will say "but we've always done it this way!" etc., but again, good luck restoring the past.
The only realistic way forward on all this, is a socially neutral solution.
Fine with me. I'd support that. You'd just have to get everyone else to support that.
If we have a female competition and a male competition, and specifically avoid the word 'woman', then that side steps the whole culture war aspect of the world of sports awkwardly having to wade into who is a woman and who isn't, and ignoring the whole point in the first place of why men and women's sports are separate.
I know people here will say "but we've always done it this way!" etc., but again, good luck restoring the past.
The only realistic way forward on all this, is a socially neutral solution.
Don't we then need a word to describe an adult female?
This thing with men competing in women's sports, won't last imo.
If a man turns into a "woman" then maybe "she" should make the sacrifice of not being able to participate in competitive sports. There is no way, no level of hormones or no time limits that will work to make it a fair contest.
No one can have everything and if you are fortunate enough to get something like a gender/sex change then you are extremly lucky and maybe you just have to be satisfied with that. There are lots of other things you can do. Lots more to do in life than compete in women's sports. Count your blessings and figure out something else that you are good at but you are not going to be competing in actual contests with women. This is from my moderate liberal viewpoint.
If a man turns into a "woman" then maybe "she" should make the sacrifice of not being able to participate in competitive sports. There is no way, no level of hormones or no time limits that will work to make it a fair contest.
No one can have everything and if you are fortunate enough to get something like a gender/sex change then you are extremly lucky and maybe you just have to be satisfied with that. There are lots of other things you can do. Lots more to do in life than compete in women's sports. Count your blessings and figure out something else that you are good at but you are not going to be competing in actual contests with women. This is from my moderate liberal viewpoint.
Rational as that may be, the person in this article apparently doesn't agree, or see it that way. That's why I think reforms to the rules are clearly needed with all this.
Good for them. They thought they were competing in a women's competition only to find out that they had to compete against men as well. If sports are going to allow men to compete in women's sports, and vice-versa, then they should just do away with genders all together.
What is the point of competition in the first place?
It is not because you want to achieve something. Because if all you want is to deadlift X weight or run X distance, then just go ahead and do those things.
No, the point of competition is in the meaning of the word itself -- to compare oneself against another. After that comes celebration (win) or reflection (loss) of what happened.
For the ladies who refused to stand at the winners' podium, it sounds harsh but what you did was meaningless. So you refused to stand at number Two and Three. Big deal, sorry. For the man who stand at number One, you provided the competition he wanted. Your Two and Three performances supported his One, which was exactly what he wanted in the first place. He did not wanted the trophy. He wanted you, from number Two to number Ninety Nine. He %99.999 certain that number One was his to take and with that level of certainty, the real trophy are the ladies from number Two to Ninety Nine who sweated and perhaps even cried during the race knowing their efforts are worthless. The trophy was not the goal, numbers Two to Ninety Nine -- were. And you gave yourselves to him once the race started.
Without competition, it is like arguing against one's self. But self challenges only go so far. The real test is facing a real opponent, whether in the intellectual realm or in the sandpit.
If women truly want to make a statement, to truly protect women's sports, then do not compete if you know a man is in your sport. Register to compete but once the starting gun go off, do not race. You take a knee or stand still. You can even cheer for him as he takes off alone. Register to compete says women's sports are still in your ownership, but not racing says a man literally stole that ownership from you.
Asked in another thread what you can do about transgender in sports or advertising? This is how, you protest. Make your voices heard. Don’t just sit around moaning on line if this bothers you.
A possible way to separate it is by do you have testicles or not and when were they removed. Testes make testosterone after onset of puberty. If you ever made testosterone, even if currently using a hormone blocker, you should be considered to be male.
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