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Old 06-01-2023, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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What’s wrong with embracing whiteness ??
There’s a black community, Hispanic community, Asian community, etc…

The “white community” is a hate group.
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Old 06-01-2023, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The Dems are Banking on Trump being the nominee. If Desantis gets the nomination Biden will be a one-term president.

Biden has nothing to run on, except, rampant inflation, sky-high gas prices, out control southern border. Anyone except Trump can beat Biden.
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Old 06-01-2023, 01:20 PM
 
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So in 5 posts, it's already clear the Republicans are not united for 2024.
I'll bet they're united about one thing: 4 more years of the Puddle Brain administration will be the end of us all.
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Old 06-01-2023, 01:33 PM
 
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The Dems are Banking on Trump being the nominee. If Desantis gets the nomination Biden will be a one-term president....
DeSantis is too extreme to appeal to independents. His abortion stance will drive young people to the polls to vote against him. He has zero charisma and is standoffish and his forced smiles won't cure that.

Most polls have Trump doing better against Biden than DeSantis vs Biden.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...2024/national/
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Old 06-01-2023, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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DeSantis is too extreme to appeal to independents. His abortion stance will drive young people to the polls to vote against him. He has zero charisma and is standoffish.

Most polls have Trump doing better against Biden than DeSantis vs Biden.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...2024/national/
I wouldn't depend on the polls much anymore as they were way off the past few elections.
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Old 06-01-2023, 01:37 PM
 
Location: U.S.
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DeSantis is too extreme to appeal to independents. His abortion stance will drive young people to the polls to vote against him. He has zero charisma and is standoffish and his forced smiles won't cure that.

Most polls have Trump doing better against Biden than DeSantis vs Biden.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...2024/national/
BINGO. This.
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Old 06-01-2023, 01:42 PM
 
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Is he? I'm not 100% sure of that. Trump took a crappy economy (thanks Obinen) and turned this country into a energy independent power house and the world may not have liked Trump but they respected him. I know what Trump can do.

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So many falsehoods in one paragraph!

1) Trump inherited a great economy. The economy was expanding at the end of Obama's term, and unemployment had come down below 5%.
https://www.bls.gov/charts/employmen...yment-rate.htm

2) Energy independence? If measured by net imports of petroleum and petroleum products, the US was a net exporter for a few months in 2020 when Trump was President. In contrast we have been a net exporter every month since late 2021. We are much more energy independent today than we were when Trump was Prez.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...s=WTTNTUS2&f=W

3) far from respected, trump was mocked and made the butt of jokes in other countries. Don't you remember the giant "Trump baby" balloon they floated in London?
https://www.businessinsider.com/18-p...g-the-summit-6
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Old 06-01-2023, 01:44 PM
 
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Even though Trump signed off on Trillions more of deficit spending?

That is why I won't vote for Trump again in this primary.

Any candidate that promises to significantly reduce federal gov't spending will get my vote...by significant, I mean 10%+/yr.. off of discretionary AND nondiscretionary budgets BOTH.
Budgets and Spending are primarily controlled by the House of Representatives, with the only power the President has is the power of veto. So Presidents can’t actually promise to cut spending.
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Old 06-01-2023, 01:48 PM
 
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In 2016 - the government said lowering unemployment was unlikely being that we were at full unemployment. Then Trump lowered it even more.
How exactly did Trump lower it more? What specifically did Trump do to lower unemployment? Or did he just enjoy the downward momentum that began under his predecessor?
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Old 06-01-2023, 01:48 PM
 
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If you thought Biden was the answer then that was even stupider.
The question was essentially "Do you want another round of Trump as Chief Executive - or someone else?"

And for once we agree, because that is an abysmally stupid question. For the entire situation ending in that choice was the outcome of a sizable portion of the electorate having had a severe case of the dumbs, for years.
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