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Old 06-25-2023, 09:56 AM
 
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My comments are to point out that the transgender thing is NOT going to be a huge issue at the elite levels.

This is simply because the number of males who are capable of beating elite females is pretty limited to begin with.

This IS a problem at lower levels.
It more of a problem at lower levels.

Collegiate swimming is a high level sport.


On the pro side.......trans beats female field to take $35K first place.
https://nypost.com/2023/05/02/transg...auses-outrage/


This is going to get worse. Higher level women's golf, tennis, cycling, track and others are in the crosshairs.
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Old 06-25-2023, 11:18 AM
 
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As much as we all hate the WNBA and the WNT soccer team for their political views, people like Rapinoe and Griner, wouldn’t it be funny to see them all get replaced by biological men?

I’d get a lot of enjoyment out of that.
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Old 06-25-2023, 07:32 PM
 
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You are as accurate as rain here.

But people are not making that particular qualification that you made on these threads. If that's what they were actually saying then I would have no problem with it.

Instead we get.. 14 year olds can beat the Women's national team. (As if all 14 year olds can beat them) Chris Evert's high school neighbor beat her in the back yard in tennis (as if all HS kids could beat her). Stuff like that. And of course we have the one guy who's high school buddies beat the girl's state title team (so he and his high school buddies could surely beat a WNBA team).

You are probably the first guy on any of these threads who has stated that the "only proper comparison is"...

I have stated over and over again that elite female athletes (in sports we can measure) are at the lower end of elite high school boys (as a rule).
This is a strawman. No one thinks the average 14 year old boy can beat the US women's world cup team.

The problem is many on the left denies the science that Y chromosome has a significant athletic advantage on average because they let their feelings on transrights trump science.

Very good 14 year old boys, not even elite, are on par with the best women soccer players on earth.

Remember when 14 year old boys easily blew out the best adult women's soccer team on earth, it was an American regional club, meaning the vast majority of them, perhaps all of them, weren't even the best American 14 year old boys and the US tends to rank well below many European and South American countries.

The best women's NCAA college soccer teams scrimmage local boys high schools and get spanked. Elite and even Champion NCAA women's soccer teams get spanked by boys high school soccer teams with losing records.

Science is real.

Y chromosome people on average have longer femur due to a gene on the Y chromosome. Bigger hearts and lungs on average. Quicker reaction times. More muscle fiber, more fast twitch muscle, and denser muscle. This is the science. Science is real.

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Old 06-25-2023, 07:36 PM
 
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Some here and some members of Congress have said they don’t feel a biological male has an advantage in sports over biological females. They say this in their defense of allowing biological men to compete as women. For those who support this view I offer a challenge. The WNBA team that wins the championship plays 5 games against the last place NBA team of that season. Do the same with soccer, tennis, golf, and (hopefully f they’re brave enough) boxing and MMA.
I agree that putting trans women in sports competitions is stupid.

I disagree that this story is one of the most important issues facing America.
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Old 06-25-2023, 07:49 PM
 
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I agree that putting trans women in sports competitions is stupid.

I disagree that this story is one of the most important issues facing America.
Supposedly it's "genocide" to believe that XY shouldn't compete in sports against XX due to a biological advantage. If it is genocide then it would be a big issue. Or, people use that term knowing it's a hype word.
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Old 06-26-2023, 03:23 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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This is a strawman. No one thinks the average 14 year old boy can beat the US women's world cup team.

The problem is many on the left denies the science that Y chromosome has a significant athletic advantage on average because they let their feelings on transrights trump science.

Very good 14 year old boys, not even elite, are on par with the best women soccer players on earth.

Remember when 14 year old boys easily blew out the best adult women's soccer team on earth, it was an American regional club, meaning the vast majority of them, perhaps all of them, weren't even the best American 14 year old boys and the US tends to rank well below many European and South American countries.

The best women's NCAA college soccer teams scrimmage local boys high schools and get spanked. Elite and even Champion NCAA women's soccer teams get spanked by boys high school soccer teams with losing records.

Science is real.

Y chromosome people on average have longer femur due to a gene on the Y chromosome. Bigger hearts and lungs on average. Quicker reaction times. More muscle fiber, more fast twitch muscle, and denser muscle. This is the science. Science is real.
Oh it was more then that. FC Dallas is part of the "MLS youth academy program". Not a team composed of kids that live around the corner. They come from all over. The academy provides room and board, education over and above the soccer part of it, at the cost of the parent of course.
MLS Next would be on par with top level Junior Hockey. Competitively speaking less then 1 percent in all age groups would make one of those teams.
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Old 06-26-2023, 04:04 AM
 
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Men are so vastly superior to women athletically that even degenerate versions of men (ie trannies) utterly destroy them.
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Old 06-26-2023, 04:06 AM
 
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Oh it was more then that. FC Dallas is part of the "MLS youth academy program". Not a team composed of kids that live around the corner. They come from all over. The academy provides room and board, education over and above the soccer part of it, at the cost of the parent of course.
MLS Next would be on par with top level Junior Hockey. Competitively speaking less then 1 percent in all age groups would make one of those teams.
The odds are few or even none of those boys will ever make the US men's national team as adults yet they spanked the best women's team on earth as 14 year old boys in a middling men's soccer country as not even the very best American 14 year old boys.

Do you deny the science that people with a Y chromosome have on average significantly larger hearts and lungs which give an athletic advantage?

That they have faster reaction times, more muscle, denser muscle, more fast twitch fibers, and longer femurs on average which give an athletic advantage.

Is science real? Or do your feelings say we must ignore the science?

Serena Williams in her prime was blown out by the 203rd ranked man who didn't try hard. How is this possible? Because science is real.
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Old 06-26-2023, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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The odds are few or even none of those boys will ever make the US men's national team as adults yet they spanked the best women's team on earth as 14 year old boys in a middling men's soccer country as not even the very best American 14 year old boys.

Do you deny the science that people with a Y chromosome have on average significantly larger hearts and lungs which give an athletic advantage?

That they have faster reaction times, more muscle, denser muscle, more fast twitch fibers, and longer femurs on average which give an athletic advantage.

Is science real? Or do your feelings say we must ignore the science?

Serena Williams in her prime was blown out by the 203rd ranked man who didn't try hard. How is this possible? Because science is real.
You keep hammering over the same points. Everyone in this thread realizes men are advantaged over females in sports. I think almost everyone here wants trans females out of women's sports.

Eddie is just trying to point out not every male athlete will beat every female athlete. What do you say to the fact that in college sports there have been a load (well over 100) of trans females (biological males on HRT) that only competed at D3? Not good enough for D2 or D1? Or what do you say to the fact there have been over a dozen females that played collegiate men's baseball? Or what do you say to the fact that a trans male boxer has won 3 pro fights against male boxers?
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Old 06-26-2023, 04:21 AM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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I think almost everyone here wants trans females out of women's sports.
Not me. Women have been invading male spaces for decades, and now they need to get a taste of their own medicine for a change.
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