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Old 07-02-2023, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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then you'd have no problem bringing religion back into schools then, right?....it's that slippery respect thing
Not the same thing at all. Religious beliefs are a CHOICE you make.

Sexuality, or gender preference, is WHO YOU ARE. I'm just coming out as being not just asexual, but aromantic and sex-averse/repulsed. Don't want to be in a relationship (turns out I have what is called an avoidant attachment style), and after 30 years of having it, don't want physically intimacy with anyone anymore.

We absolutely should be teaching kids that it is perfectly ok NOT to want to be in a relationship, that there is nothing with with never being sexually attracted to someone else, or to be averse or repulsed by the subject of sex or the idea of having it.

The heterosexual boy meets girl, want to be in a relationship, has sex, gets married/shacks up trope that has been presented as THE way to do things as far as sex/relationships go isn't the only way to live, nor should it be shoved down anyone's throat as "the norm."

You know as soon as the people preaching about "tradition" discover the asexuals (we're only 1% of the population) they're going to be all over us as being "abnormal." We are the A in LGBTIA+, after all.
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Old 07-02-2023, 07:24 AM
 
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Surely you jest. Kids are born curious about everything, especially about their own bodies. They deserve straight answers, not denial.
Grade schools are not designed to teach everything about life. Nor is there time to go off curriculum to answer every curious question a student may have. And yes they have a lot of curious questions. What's more important however is teaching the skill of reading, writing, and comprehension (using literature) so a student develops the skills to learn any topic throughout their life. That's what's critical.

Say a teacher is going through chapter 4 of American history and a student has a question. Good! But if not's about the topic being taught a good teacher will not waste the time of all the other students to answer off topic questions during history lesson. Even if they are good questions.

Every curious question a student has can be answered in the appropriate class, at appropriate age levels.

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Old 07-02-2023, 07:26 AM
 
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Religion was never taught in public schools. But it's about teaching respect and acceptance for human beings who are different from you, because no one is better than anyone else. Many don't believe in god because they don't believe in an unknown entity. So no, it's not a slippery respect thing.
Respect? So where is the full course material and focus on people with disabilities? How about the people that are very tall? Very Short? Obese? Couldn't catch a ball if their life depended on it? Slurs their "S"'s? Have a "funny" name that is hard to pronounce?

Do you know why there is no specific focus on those? Because schools already try and install respect for everyone regardless. You don't need to single out a certain group for additional respect.

So no, nice try but this has NOTHING to do with respect. It has to do with the activist of a certain group pushing their agenda on another impressionable group.
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Old 07-02-2023, 07:52 AM
 
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Not the same thing at all. Religious beliefs are a CHOICE you make.

Sexuality, or gender preference, is WHO YOU ARE. I'm just coming out as being not just asexual, but aromantic and sex-averse/repulsed. Don't want to be in a relationship (turns out I have what is called an avoidant attachment style), and after 30 years of having it, don't want physically intimacy with anyone anymore.

We absolutely should be teaching kids that it is perfectly ok NOT to want to be in a relationship, that there is nothing with with never being sexually attracted to someone else, or to be averse or repulsed by the subject of sex or the idea of having it.

The heterosexual boy meets girl, want to be in a relationship, has sex, gets married/shacks up trope that has been presented as THE way to do things as far as sex/relationships go isn't the only way to live, nor should it be shoved down anyone's throat as "the norm."

You know as soon as the people preaching about "tradition" discover the asexuals (we're only 1% of the population) they're going to be all over us as being "abnormal." We are the A in LGBTIA+, after all.
I went through all grades in public schools from K to college. Not once did a classroom teach anything about relationships or sexual orientation. Or that only heterosexuals are in normal relationships. Not once was this taught or even mentioned in any class. It was probably taught in sex-ed and human relations courses but I didn't take those classes.

Your sexuality is not "who you are". It's your sexuality, a personality trait. Which may or may not be different from others. Or may or may not be different from the norm. The only thing that matters about your sexuality is when you are dating or in a relationship. Otherwise it should mean nothing to others.

Someone that is not dating you, or not in an intimate relationship with you, should have no interest in your sexuality. If they do you should be HIGHLY suspect of them. A close friend, or family, you trust and love would be an exception. Everyone else should keep their nose out of your personal life.

Your sexuality is a personal and private matter. No one should be asking about it, and you should be keeping it private except with those you share it with.

As you already know that in groups of people there is always a norm. The %1 that are different are not the norm. You will always be surrounded by the norm, not the few %1. If this makes you feel uncomfortable that's a normal feeling because being different from most others naturally makes one feel uncomfortable. You can learn to outgrow this feeling by accepting the norm as "who they are" just as you want others to accept you "as you are". Goes both ways.

But your sexuality is not "who you are" and don't expect all the others in the norm group to change for the 1 percent. Find those that accept you and all your personality traits. By the way there are offensive personality traits far worse then sexual orientation trait. Rude behavior etc.

Unless you wear your sexuality on your sleeve (you don't wear a rainbow flag I hope?) then others can feel comfortable around you.

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Old 07-02-2023, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Why? Couldn't you discuss this with your child at home? Why do you need the schools to do this? I would much rather schools do what schools used to do. TEACH. That is teaching academic subjects not turning the school day into a social laboratory with the kids being the lab rats.
Looking at some of the comments here I doubt if some are teaching acceptance at home.
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Old 07-02-2023, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Respect? So where is the full course material and focus on people with disabilities? How about the people that are very tall? Very Short? Obese? Couldn't catch a ball if their life depended on it? Slurs their "S"'s? Have a "funny" name that is hard to pronounce?

Do you know why there is no specific focus on those? Because schools already try and install respect for everyone regardless. You don't need to single out a certain group for additional respect.

So no, nice try but this has NOTHING to do with respect. It has to do with the activist of a certain group pushing their agenda on another impressionable group.
I don't recall anyone being physically threatened for not being able to catch a ball, besides they will move on in life. Being gay doesn't disappear after high school. Obese people are no longer a small minority thanks to our eating habits, makeup is over 30%.

We should all accept people with disabilities, do you have cases where they are being threatened.
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Old 07-02-2023, 08:10 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Not the same thing at all. Religious beliefs are a CHOICE you make.

Sexuality, or gender preference, is WHO YOU ARE. I'm just coming out as being not just asexual, but aromantic and sex-averse/repulsed. Don't want to be in a relationship (turns out I have what is called an avoidant attachment style), and after 30 years of having it, don't want physically intimacy with anyone anymore.

We absolutely should be teaching kids that it is perfectly ok NOT to want to be in a relationship, that there is nothing with with never being sexually attracted to someone else, or to be averse or repulsed by the subject of sex or the idea of having it.

The heterosexual boy meets girl, want to be in a relationship, has sex, gets married/shacks up trope that has been presented as THE way to do things as far as sex/relationships go isn't the only way to live, nor should it be shoved down anyone's throat as "the norm."

You know as soon as the people preaching about "tradition" discover the asexuals (we're only 1% of the population) they're going to be all over us as being "abnormal." We are the A in LGBTIA+, after all.
And you think it's important for 5 year old to know about that ?
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Old 07-02-2023, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The issue is that parents are not allowed to have their children opt out of having LGBTQ+ materials taught to them.

They are forced to have their children read about topics that are contrary to their values.

Does that sound like freedom to you?
This is a leftist state-they oppose freedom and personal choice. It's all about conformity to government dictates.
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Old 07-02-2023, 08:57 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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As if the kids don't have enough on their plates already? We are seeing increasing numbers of kids that can't read or do math at a competent grade level but boy are those kids excelling at their Social Justice Warrior studies.


US and World History is barely touched on but now the kids are going to be taught the History of Gays?



It really is crazy.
What's crazy is when a presumably grown man (if the name on your profile is accurate) clutches his pearls like you're doing. That's crazy.
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Old 07-02-2023, 09:02 AM
 
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Looking at some of the comments here I doubt if some are teaching acceptance at home.
Then that is THEIR business...NOT YOURS.
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