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Old 07-06-2023, 07:16 AM
 
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See: Florida appeals two rulings regarding gender-affirming care

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"The state is appealing two rulings this month by a federal judge that rejected efforts to limit treatments such as puberty blockers and hormone therapy for transgender people."
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Also see: DeSantis signs Florida ban on transgender treatment for minors
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"This will permanently outlaw the mutilation of minors," DeSantis said at a bill-signing ceremony in Tampa.

"I mean they're trying to do sex change operations on minors, giving them puberty blockers and doing things that are irreversible to them," the Republican governor said."

Judge Hinkle’s injunction flagrantly subjugates a State’s Tenth Amendment inherent regulatory authority dealing with minors, e.g., drinking, driving, age limits on marrying, etc.

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Old 07-08-2023, 02:32 PM
 
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Default And in Tennessee, ban on sex altering procedure for minors goes back into effect

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See: Federal appeals court allows Tennessee ban on gender-affirming care for transgender minors to take effect


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"After determining the law, Senate Bill 1, likely violated the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses, a district court had previously issued an injunction on the law’s enforcement across the state. However, the state of Tennessee appealed and moved for an emergency stay of the district court’s order.

“Because Tennessee is likely to succeed on its appeal of the preliminary injunction, we grant the stay,” a panel of the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled on Saturday."
It's more than likely the same will happen with Judge Hinkle's ruling on Florida's law . . . his injunction will be put on hold, as applied to minors.

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Old 07-08-2023, 03:08 PM
 
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Tennessee and Kentuckys ban was halted in the courts, surprising ruling. This will likely end up in the Supreme Court and be overturned. They can’t ban accepted medical treatment.
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Old 07-08-2023, 04:02 PM
 
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Tennessee and Kentuckys ban was halted in the courts, surprising ruling. This will likely end up in the Supreme Court and be overturned. They can’t ban accepted medical treatment.
"Accepted medical treatment?" Is that how your characterize the permanent mutilation of children? Get help.
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Old 07-08-2023, 04:02 PM
 
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Tennessee and Kentuckys ban was halted in the courts, surprising ruling. This will likely end up in the Supreme Court and be overturned. They can’t ban accepted medical treatment.
Yes they can, and they absolutely should! It's not a ban on adults doing it. It would ban the surgeries for minors. No one could ever convince me this is accepted medical practice. It's experimental and the results are in and they're awful.

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Old 07-08-2023, 06:20 PM
 
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Tennessee and Kentuckys ban was halted in the courts, surprising ruling. This will likely end up in the Supreme Court and be overturned. They can’t ban accepted medical treatment.


We are talking about an irreversible sex change procedure on a minor who is not mature enough to make such a life altering decision. This happens to fall within the retained regulatory powers of the States, and states have been legislating age limits on a variety of things such as drinking, driving, smoking, marrying for as long as I can remember. Why would our Supreme Court involve itself in a state's age limit being placed on the irreversible, life altering procedure in question? What's the federal question involved?

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Old 07-08-2023, 06:36 PM
 
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We are talking about an irreversible sex change procedure on a minor who is not mature enough to make such a life altering decision. This happens to fall within the retained regulatory powers of the States, and states have been legislating age limits on a variety of things such as drinking, driving, smoking, marrying for as long as I can remember. Why would our Supreme Court involve itself in a state's age limit being placed on the irreversible, life altering procedure in question? What's the federal question involved?

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They banned all medical procedures, not just surgery and the decisions are made by parents, doctors and children not politicians. These procedures are approved by the medical community, these red states need to stop intervening in care for marginalized children.
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Old 07-08-2023, 06:50 PM
 
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Tennessee and Kentuckys ban was halted in the courts, surprising ruling. This will likely end up in the Supreme Court and be overturned. They can’t ban accepted medical treatment.
Why do you want children (under 18)to be medically altered?
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Old 07-08-2023, 06:56 PM
 
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Yes they can, and they absolutely should! It's not a ban on adults doing it. It would ban the surgeries for minors. No one could ever convince me this is accepted medical practice. It's experimental and the results are in and they're awful.
And yet this happens all the time. One in 2,000 children are born "inter-sexed" with organs or traits thereof of both sexes. This is nothing new. Even Jefferson, Adams and others of the time like Dr. James Anderson of Scotland engaged in discussions on how many genders there were and what pronouns to use. Of course, then surgery wasn't an option.

Inter-sexed children today have surgery, sometimes the parents get it wrong.
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Old 07-09-2023, 05:46 AM
 
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They banned all medical procedures, not just surgery and the decisions are made by parents, doctors and children not politicians. These procedures are approved by the medical community, these red states need to stop intervening in care for marginalized children.


Your deflection is noted. This has nothing to do with red states vs blue states. It has to do with an irreversible sex change procedure on a minor who is not mature enough to make such a life altering decision.

And you never answered the question: Why would our Supreme Court involve itself in a state's age limit being placed on the irreversible, life altering procedure in question? What's the federal question involved?

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