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Old 07-19-2023, 02:51 PM
 
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... who have been given puberty suppressant drugs and typically have never had any sexual experience.

I would not want these people operating on frogs used in high school biology class.



A few notes from the discussion.
  • post-op therapy is more challenging than the surgery itself.
  • questionable ethics on doing these operations on teenagers who have never had any sexual interaction
  • they don't even know if doing these surgeries are good or bad at this point

They are ruining kids lives while figuring out what they are trying to do.

Where are the parents??
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Old 07-19-2023, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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The boys they perform these surgeries on that have been on puberty blockers, typically don't have a big enough penis for them to use to create a vagina.

They use the lining of the abdomen then.

History is not going to look kindly on this butchery.
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Old 07-19-2023, 03:08 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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These people should be in jail or worse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUjIS6r39O8
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Old 07-19-2023, 03:11 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Because they never go through puberty so they don't sexually develop.

Sweden has 10 years of data for research and they just restricted this to clinical trials.
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Old 07-19-2023, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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History is not going to look kindly on this butchery.

But members on the Left will defend it as if it is something important to our Society and a Human Right.



Something else that is similar and we here in the West view as Barbaric is the ritualistic cutting/scraping of girls in countries such as Somalia. They call it FGM Female Genital Mutilation and up to 90% of girls go through it. We are talking about girls aged 5-11 that receive the abuse. Of course there are some that do it because it is part of their society while others want to be like their older sister, their mom, their grandmother. There are no doubt some girls that do not want the procedure yet they are forced to do it.


Those girls have the support of the women in their lives and town but what support does an American girl have that changes her gender? That Dylan Mulvaney supposedly fled the US out of FEAR of the backlash and her life. I wonder if she went to Somalia or any of the other countries that mutilate their girls?


This is all so messed up and when it comes to convincing, encouraging and allowing kids to transition it is butchery.
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Old 07-19-2023, 03:17 PM
 
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Parents (or legal guardians) maintain control over minor children when it comes to healthcare decisions. All this flapping about in distress and pearl-clutching is wasted emo. Surgeons can't operate on minors without written consent by a legal guardian for the minor, and other doctors cannot treat minors without legal consent, as well. Once a minor turns 18 they are legally an adult and don't need anyone's permission to make medical decisions for themselves.

So, what are you going to do -- sue other parents because they have a minor child who wants to be a different gender? Or try to sue the child? Are you going to try to insert yourself into other families?
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Old 07-19-2023, 03:19 PM
 
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Parents (or legal guardians) maintain control over minor children when it comes to healthcare decisions. All this flapping about in distress and pearl-clutching is wasted emo. Surgeons can't operate on minors without written consent by a legal guardian for the minor, and other doctors cannot treat minors without legal consent, as well. Once a minor turns 18 they are legally an adult and don't need anyone's permission to make medical decisions for themselves.

So, what are you going to do -- sue other parents because they have a minor child who wants to be a different gender? Or try to sue the child? Are you going to try to insert yourself into other families?
No, butchery is not a healthcare decision

No, just not allow minors to get these operations.
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Old 07-19-2023, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Lord, these children are Guinea pigs.

Why are they so keen on doing these irreversible things instead of focusing JUST on the mental and emotional aspects of this until adulthood? They acknowledge these kids have had no sexual experiences yet and they don’t want to “exacerbate the dysphoria” by asking them to do so before they go under the knife and get butchered so they have something to compare to.

The victims are totally innocent kids with zero experience yet they seem to know it all when it comes to wanting to be the opposite sex (at least they are given credit for such). Just no. Can’t have it both ways - no experience yet know it all.

It is up to parents to put their foot down and stop this. Nobody else is going to stop it.
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Old 07-19-2023, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Parents (or legal guardians) maintain control over minor children when it comes to healthcare decisions. All this flapping about in distress and pearl-clutching is wasted emo. Surgeons can't operate on minors without written consent by a legal guardian for the minor, and other doctors cannot treat minors without legal consent, as well. Once a minor turns 18 they are legally an adult and don't need anyone's permission to make medical decisions for themselves.

So, what are you going to do -- sue other parents because they have a minor child who wants to be a different gender? Or try to sue the child? Are you going to try to insert yourself into other families?
As a society we've agreed that we have laws that protect children that a parent can't circumvent.

Transgender medical intervention on a minor should be another one of those laws.
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Old 07-19-2023, 03:39 PM
 
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Where are the parents??
Many are virtue signaling or being pressured to support the mutilations that will lead to a life of medical complications.

Biden is pushing this nonsense.
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