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Old 07-21-2023, 07:46 PM
 
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Oh that’s cute. You’re assuming Trump won’t be president in 2029 if he wins in 2024. He’ll probably be dead by then but if he’s not he’ll still be “president.”
For 3 weeks.

 
Old 07-21-2023, 07:56 PM
 
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For 3 weeks.
You seriously think Trump will EVER give the presidency back if he manages to get it in his grubby paws again? That’s precious. It really is.
 
Old 07-21-2023, 08:16 PM
 
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You seriously think Trump will EVER give the presidency back if he manages to get it in his grubby paws again? That’s precious. It really is.
Of course he will.

Unlike Democrats, Republicans have respect for the Constitution and rule of law.
 
Old 07-21-2023, 11:05 PM
 
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The average American doesn't receive preferential treatment in legal proceedings, and neither should Donald Trump.
The average American isn't prosecuted because of who he is, and neither should Donald Trump be.
 
Old 07-21-2023, 11:06 PM
 
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Never said there were. But one of them is going to start first. New York is set for October 24. Miami is May 20. Georgia is unknown, but the courts are perpetually backed up in Fulton County.

It seems logical that since the federal docket moves faster than the states, D.C. will be the logical place for a trial to start quicker, depending, of course, on when he’s indicted there.
The federal docket is much SLOWER Than the states'.
 
Old 07-21-2023, 11:09 PM
 
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Settlements mean he didn’t have to admit guilt even though he was.
Maybe he was crooked about it -- I have no idea -- but Clinton and Biden both took money in the same way you're saying Trump did.
 
Old 07-21-2023, 11:11 PM
 
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He’s facing trial on two felony indictments with 72 total counts (so far).

Seems like he qualifies in spades.
Seems like you don't speak English. A felon is someone who committed a felony, not someone who has been indicted.
 
Old 07-22-2023, 03:07 AM
 
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Horse ****!!


Hillary Clinton is definitely above the law.
 
Old 07-22-2023, 05:56 AM
 
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Maybe he was crooked about it -- I have no idea -- but Clinton and Biden both took money in the same way you're saying Trump did.
Nobody ever found any evidence of that in 35 years of looking, and you know it. Trump, OTOH, is a known con man.
 
Old 07-22-2023, 07:51 AM
 
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The average American doesn't receive preferential treatment in legal proceedings, and neither should Donald Trump.
Actually, average Americans frequently received "preferential" treatment in legal proceedings. In this case, the "preferential treatment" to which you refer is the case being delayed. It is a common tactic for defense attorneys to delay cases via endless continuances, strategic FTAs, and a plethora of other means. The goal is to drag it out so long that witnesses get tired of showing up. I saw this happen many times as an LEO. I had one case where a woman left a 4-year-old child in a car unattended for several hours while she went shopping in a mall. I continued getting court summons for a good ten years on that one.

But to your broader point, I agree, no one should be above the law or receive special treatment. Unfortunately, treatment of the wealthy/powerful by the court system has always been different than for us regular folks - in every country in the world since civilization began. The real question is this - is someone being treated better or worse than other people in similar circumstances have been treated, or is the prosecution based on racism, sexism, sexual orientation, religious beliefs, political affiliation, etc. A simple example would be shoplifting. I think we all agree that shoplifting is wrong, but many people who are caught shoplifting are let off the hook for practical reasons, not because they're above the law. However, if it was determined that 90% of purple shoplifters are prosecuted, but only 25% of pink shoplifters are prosecuted, then a hard look needs to be taken at possible bias against purple people.
It's the same with politicians. Was Bill Clinton treated worse than other people in his position who committed the same offense? Nixon? HRC? Biden? Trump? I don't know, but it's much more complicated than "lock 'em all up". Political witch hunts are a real thing.
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