Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
and what is going to stop him from using a sword, or a vehicle, or a crude bomb ( like a pressure cooker filled nails and any explosive) , or an easy chemical agent.... nuts will always find away.....
the issue is not guns,...the issue is mental disease...... why wont liberals EVER address mental issues..... are liberals afraid to find out that liberalism is a mental illness?
So -
Tell me what our plans are to deal with mental illness? Mass shootings have been going on for years, and NOTHING has ever even been talked about to address the problem.
In the meantime, every other developed nation on earth has all but completely eliminated the problem. What are they doing that we are not?
Tell me what our plans are to deal with mental illness? Mass shootings have been going on for years, and NOTHING has ever even been talked about to address the problem.
In the meantime, every other developed nation on earth has all but completely eliminated the problem. What are they doing that we are not?
Tell me what our plans are to deal with mental illness? Mass shootings have been going on for years, and NOTHING has ever even been talked about to address the problem.
In the meantime, every other developed nation on earth has all but completely eliminated the problem. What are they doing that we are not?
Putting people in jail and actually making them pay for what they have done....That would be a great start, but as we can see that, that does not happen.
Quote:
There’s the 1973 mass murder at a gay bar in New Orleans that killed 32: An ejected customer went down the street and bought a can of cigarette-lighter fluid. And the 87 murdered in New York City in 1990: A guy upset with his ex-girlfriend bought $1 worth of gasoline. In 1986 in San Juan, Puerto Rico, union officers put pressure on an employer by using camp-stove gas to murder 97. On July 5 of this year, a guy in Port Angeles, Wash., burned his trailer, killing his wife and three children. Did you see that on CNN?
Nations with strict gun-control laws still have mass murders. One man stabbed to death five people with a kitchen knife at a Calgary party. After the 1996 Port Arthur mass murder, Australia banned most semiautomatic rifles, but they still have mass murders: eight siblings killed in a mass stabbing in Queensland; five bludgeoned to death in Sydney in 2009. Mass murders by arson are also a problem in such countries. Palace Backpackers Hostel in Childers, Queensland, was intentionally burned in 2000, killing 15. The 2011 Quakers Hill Nursing Home fire killed eleven, set by a nurse after police questioned him about drug abuse.
Quote:
Japan has mass murders. In 1995, a sarin poison-gas attack killed 13 and injured many more. In 2016, a former employee of a nursing home stabbed to death 19 of the patients. Eight students were stabbed to death at an Osaka school in 2001. A combination vehicle/stabbing incident killed seven in Tokyo in 2008. A father burned his wife and five children to death in Tokyo in 2017. Last month, 35 died when a man set fire to an anime studio.
In real life, the Nazis sucked at central planning. Both in concept and execution.
The Soviets were great at it, mostly because they shot people who didn't follow orders. America was pretty good and the UK's resource allocation problem was simplified by the fact that they had so few resources to allocate.
But the Nazis, OTOH, were a bunch of blundering simpletons, replete with infighting, competition, resource hoarding and wasteful behavior all around. Aircraft companies, for instance, would continue to sink tens of thousands of highly-qualified manhours by taking competing designs way too far, where UK or US government would pick a preferred design much sooner. All sorts of outside-the-box designs were allowed to enter into production, absorbing resources. Different organizations and even different military formations didn't just compete, they actively sabotaged each other.
Lucky for decent people, of course.
The idea of the Nazis as a well-oiled, efficient machine of a government is pure Hollywood.
When did I say they were efficient??????????????
No Central Planners are efficient. Socialism is EXCEPTIONALLY inefficient.
I simply said that the Nazi's LOVED TO DO IT. They planned out everyone's life from cradle to grave, just like good Marxists would.
It's bizarre that you think i'm implying they were "efficient" in any way.
We could start by not letting them have guns, perhaps?
People who commit domestic violence, say. Clearly have anger and control issues, problem with managing their temper. A lifetime sentence seems a little excessive. But perhaps a concerted effort to keep them from getting their hands on highly-perfected instruments of violence?
It's nice to spout off hopes and dreams.
But in reality, how would you implement this? People that are convicted of domestic violence ARE barred from buying firearms if they are felons.
I took a bunch of kids out to shoot sporting clays last weekend with those "highly perfected instruments of violence." They had a ball and there was not one instance of "violence."
Tell me what our plans are to deal with mental illness? Mass shootings have been going on for years, and NOTHING has ever even been talked about to address the problem.
In the meantime, every other developed nation on earth has all but completely eliminated the problem. What are they doing that we are not?
Quote:
Tell me what our plans are to deal with mental illness?
seems like nothing 535 members of congress and none of them want to address mental illness..... all they ever talk about is a tool, but never the person that uses the tool
Quote:
What are they doing that we are not?
eliminating individuals rights, for the commune....... sorry but the left doesnt get to do this.... their garbage of community over the individual is unconstitutional.....
and the left has been pushing this for a 100 years
Quote:
FDR gave a speech in Troy, NY, 3 March 1912, in which he laid out his philosophy - he(FDR) placed the "liberty of the community" over "the liberty of the individual."
FDR himself praised the Prussian-German model:
Quote:
“They passed beyond the liberty of the individual to do as he pleased with his own property and found it necessary to check this liberty for the benefit of the freedom of the whole people,”
he said in an address to the People’s Forum of Troy, New York.
FDR told Churchill that "an unwritten Constitution is better than a written one." When reminded there was the Constitution, FDR said after his 1936 inauguration "Yes, but it's the Constitution as I understand it - flexible enough (to do what he wanted)." .......( much like Obama also stated) ....He admiringly told Churchill that Stalin didn't have to worry about Congresses and Parliaments, "he's the whole works." In a letter to a member of the House Ways and Means Committee, FDR wrote- " I hope your committee will not permit doubt as to Constitutionality, however reasonable, to block the suggested legislation." FDR did not believe in Constitutional checks and balances - he tried to destroy and was prepared to defy the Supreme Court and Congress. He did not believe in advise and consent or the rule of law - he waged war and made treaties without Congressional approval. He did not believe in representative democracy and often said that since Congress did not reflect the will of the people they should be ignored.
funny, bill Clinton said something similar.
Quote:
"If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees." bill Clinton.
the left has always wanted to eliminate the personal freedoms of the individual.
Tell me what our plans are to deal with mental illness? Mass shootings have been going on for years, and NOTHING has ever even been talked about to address the problem.
In the meantime, every other developed nation on earth has all but completely eliminated the problem. What are they doing that we are not?
That's completely false that every other country has "eliminated" anything of the sort.
Many other countries are much more authoritarian on guns, that's for sure. But no one wants to live there.
There are murders and rapes and gun crime and everything else in every country in the world.
No government can protect everyone at all times.
Therefore, the need for firearms will always exist and in every corner of the globe.
Countries that respect individual liberty won't infringe on the right of people to protect themselves.
All others that do are authoritarian states. Period.
Putting people in jail and actually making them pay for what they have done....That would be a great start, but as we can see that, that does not happen.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
