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Old 09-14-2023, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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This just happened at one of our local school board meetings. A gentleman was reading an excerpt from a book and the board chair just kept telling him to stop.

If we can't read some of that stuff in a public meeting, should that book be IN SCHOOLS? I think that's the issue.

If you as a parent don't mind your child reading certain topics, then you take them to the regular public library or a book store and get them a book to read.

But, if you as a parent would prefer your child NOT have access to those topics, why should the SCHOOL provide that access?

I think that we live in the same place. I think it's horrible that these books are in schools, any schools, and I hope that school board woman is removed/voted out, whatever. She is awful.

But back to the books. I don't care if they are only in high school. Since when is it ok to provide kids under 18 with pornography?
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Old 09-14-2023, 06:15 AM
 
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I get why parents show up to school board meetings and complain. But where are the lawsuits against the schools for providing X rated material to minors? Isn't that a crime?

There is a legal twist maybe. If a parent hands their child over to a guardian, even temporarily, and that would include schools, is that the parent giving permission to the school to raise their child as the school sees fit?

I would suggest parents sign a legal document that states "When my child is in your care you may not expose my child to any sexual content in lessons, books or media." and send that to the school every school period.
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Old 09-14-2023, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The even bigger question is why do democrats want to provide pornography to children under 18? Ok I get it, they can go online and see all kinds of things. Shame on me, if I allow that to happen. But school is the last place that they should be exposed to it. Maybe a dem can explain to us why it is ok and why it is different than taking a 16 year old to a strip club or x rated movie?
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Old 09-14-2023, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Why are you assuming that this book is being taught as if it was some course? Libraries carry a broad range of books as they say "you'll find something to offend everyone" so if you have no interest then don't check it out.

Have you read it, I haven't but all the agencies and reviews used by libraries have evaluated it as appropriate for the age(s)/grade levels mentioned and I trust their professional opinions. It wasn't 20 years ago that the moral outrage over the Harry Potter series was in full swing and pretty much the same thing and yet we survive. A parent can simply request that their child not be allowed to use the library at school and they will oblige them, the child loses but if that's what the parents want that's their choice.

These books do not make a child gay but they do provide answers and make them realize they aren't so alone and so different; if that prevents 1 child from attempting suicide over their despair then its worth it.




Don't try to pretend that there's no difference between a public library and a school library.

Just because this isn't being used as a textbook doesn't mean that it's appropriate material to be available to students in a school library.

You want your kids to read stuff like that, then do it at home.
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Old 09-14-2023, 08:32 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Don't try to pretend that there's no difference between a public library and a school library.

Just because this isn't being used as a textbook doesn't mean that it's appropriate material to be available to students in a school library.

You want your kids to read stuff like that, then do it at home.
Why do so many people bend over backwards to defend and or downplay this stuff? I just don't get how some think.

That material that Kennedy read out loud has no place in any public school library, plain and simple. If you can't see that, then you are the problem.

No one is saying ban the book, no one is saying that a parent can't expose their kid to that, no one is saying that kids can't get porn or sexual based material online.

All we saying is for the love of basic common sense, keep that kind of stuff out of the school libraries. Saw some clip of a parent reading similar material to a school board council and they we're telling her it's inappropriate, if it's inappropriate for a school board council meeting then it's sure as hell ought to be inappropriate to be in a school library.

These people are either liars or they are just obtuse beyond measure.
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Old 09-14-2023, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The even bigger question is why do democrats want to provide pornography to children under 18?

Hello? Anyone? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?
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Old 09-14-2023, 08:38 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Per this topic we should stop using the term, "book bans" when the goal is to make sure that all books are available to kids on an age appropriate basis not to ban books.

So far as I can tell no one has demanded that publishers stop producing said books.
Thanks to leftists, the word 'ban' has pretty much lost all meaning.
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Old 09-14-2023, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The even bigger question is why do democrats want to provide pornography to children under 18?

Still no takers to answer this question?
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Old 09-14-2023, 08:08 PM
 
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I don't know if it's that you haven't seen these books or read or listened to the video but no. It would be like if you were providing tax payer funded abortions in schools and expected me to 'talk to my kids'. Just no.

If my kid wasn't a senior, I would pull her out of public schools. After seeing a teacher lead LGBTQ protest in our district last spring, I can no longer recommend public k-12. IT DOESN'T BELONG IN SCHOOLS.
Two things - if they were in fact providing tax payer funded abortions at school (and I’m not suggesting they should) what is going to stop your child from taking advantage of it - except for the values and education that you as a parent have already instilled? Honestly if you haven’t “talked to your kids” about sex and birth control or abstinence or abortion or whatever then what the schools do or don’t do is kinda irrelevant.

And, your kid is a senior. What ill effect do you think gender q is going to have on her at this point? And again, LGBTQ and everything else you can think of is already available to every kid in the Western world. A lot of kids have actually had sex itself by this point, never mind reading about it.

The only thing anyone has in their arsenal is to instil values and age appropriate ways of dealing with it all in their own children. All these life things are coming at them one way or another.

All the bad (depending on your perspective) things are out there and available, school or not.
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